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re: Trump to roll back Biden-era refrigerant rules in push to lower grocery costs
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:35 pm to Boss13
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:35 pm to Boss13
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Its not "extremely" flammable but its flammable enough for codes to be updated which is where its going to add costs.
Thanks for the update..
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:05 pm to LLeD
There's no way anyone actually believes this has anything to do with grocery prices.
The entire world has been moving away from HFC based refrigratiants for nearly 10 yrs now.
The entire world has been moving away from HFC based refrigratiants for nearly 10 yrs now.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:06 pm to Barstools
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Well if you weren't retarded you would realize regulations place cost burdens on companies that then get passed on to the consumer.
That doesn't mean ALL regulations are unnecessary
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:08 pm to The_Duke
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There's no way anyone actually believes this has anything to do with grocery prices.
The entire world has been moving away from HFC based refrigratiants for nearly 10 yrs now.
Sometimes you just have to celebrate the moral victories I guess
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:09 pm to The_Duke
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There's no way anyone actually believes this has anything to do with grocery prices.
The entire world has been moving away from HFC based refrigratiants for nearly 10 yrs now.
Utilities and refrigeration take up 3-5% of revenue. Also, the reason the world has moved away from it is because the EPA banned it. Quick Google search tells me the USA is 20-50% of all HVAC sales.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:10 pm to LLeD
This thread should reveal the homeowners vs the renters pretty quick
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:11 pm to Powerman
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That doesn't mean ALL regulations are unnecessary
Literally no one is saying that. Excessive regulation makes things more expensive and creates a higher barrier to entry, thus decreasing competition.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:13 pm to Powerman
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I'd like to hear the logic behind this one
It will slightly lower the cost of living and running a business, and thus piss anti American dousch nozzles off.
You're pissed aren't you?
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:15 pm to LSU Patrick
188,000 pages in the federal code of regulations.
Just think of the pages in all of the referenced materials pertaining to those.
Mind blowing
Just think of the pages in all of the referenced materials pertaining to those.
Mind blowing
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:16 pm to Gee Grenouille
China.
They never stopped making or using any of it
They never stopped making or using any of it
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:20 pm to LLeD
This admin just loves putting American's heaths at risk.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:23 pm to Bonkers119
Got 6.5 pounds of old Freon yesterday from my ac guy. Add 1.5 hours of labor came out to $1,007.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:24 pm to Powerman
What is your plan to reduce grocery prices
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:25 pm to Powerman
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I'd like to hear the logic behind this one
The problem is that the next dem will just bring back the regs
So the companies wont change
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:26 pm to Powerman
quote:Just the feel-good ones by Democrats.
That doesn't mean ALL regulations are unnecessary
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:26 pm to tigeraddict
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and the new refrigerant is not as energy efficient as the older refrigerants, but more "environmentally" friendly
Nothing beat the old R12/R22.
That was it...2 versions. Ah the good old days.
My parents still have a R22 ac running right now.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:27 pm to LLeD
Quite frankly, this should have happened on day 1. Any and all Biden era rules, refs, etc should have been wiped out by Trump long before now.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:30 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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See light bulbs or gas cans.
I've got a literal stockpile of old gas cans that I've picked up at yard sales and auctions. Most of them are steel.
I'll not part with them, ever, and anyone who attempts to relieve me of even a single one will be judiciously met with the Binelli M4 security system.
And I'm not kidding. I'll go to war for my 55G drums and my gas cans.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:30 pm to Boss13
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Utilities and refrigeration take up 3-5% of revenue. Also, the reason the world has moved away from it is because the EPA banned it. Quick Google search tells me the USA is 20-50% of all HVAC sales.
Maybe quick google search the actual products because all of the plants have converted and only make the new stuff. The Honeywell site in BR converted to the new refrigerants 10 years ago.
It's more expensive to by the old stuff than the new refrigerants. And the new refrigerants are far more energy efficient.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:40 pm to tigeraddict
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the new refrigerant is not as energy efficient as the older refrigerants
Lol you have no idea what you are talking about. You can literally google this in 10secs.
Everything built today is far more efficient than 10-20 yrs ago.
Cars
Laptops
TVs
Microwaves
Washers/Dryer
Refrigeration
The list goes on and on.
If not for regulations we would still have cars getting 5-10mpg but I'm sure there is someone in here that thinks there 1966 chevy is better than modern cars.
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 2:50 pm
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