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Trump to roll back Biden-era refrigerant rules in push to lower grocery costs

Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:55 pm
Posted by LLeD
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:55 pm
President Donald Trump is set to announce the overhaul of two Biden-era Environmental Protection Agency rules for refrigerants in a push to lower grocery costs for consumers, according to an administration official.

EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin, in a statement, said the refrigerant rules adopted by the Biden administration "didn’t protect human health or the environment and instead piled on costly, unattainable restrictions beyond what the law requires."

"Our actions allow businesses to choose the refrigeration systems that work best for them, saving them billions of dollars. This will be felt directly by American families in lower grocery prices," Zeldin said.

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This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 1:00 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:56 pm to
Cut as many regulations as possible
Posted by Boss13
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:57 pm to
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President Donald Trump is set to announce the overhaul of two Biden-era Environmental Protection Agency rules for refrigerants in a push to lower grocery costs for consumers, according to an administration official.


Holy crap, will we be able to get the same refrigerants our systems have been using the past 30 years?
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 12:58 pm
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:01 pm to
I'm not sure the administration understands that the damage has already been done.

See light bulbs or gas cans.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:02 pm to
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Cut as many regulations as possible

I'd like to hear the logic behind this one
Posted by Beer did clam
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:03 pm to
Now lets do incandescent light bulbs.
Posted by Boss13
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

'm not sure the administration understands that the damage has already been done.

See light bulbs or gas cans.


Not necessarily, there are a tons of legacy systems chugging along that can now be repaired instead of replaced, saving $1000s.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:07 pm to
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Not necessarily, there are a tons of legacy systems chugging along that can now be repaired instead of replaced, saving $1000s.


If companies still have the refrigerant. Many don't because they have been doing exactly as you say, keeping them "chugging along".

I'm out and they ain't making anymore of it, that I know of.
Posted by Barstools
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:12 pm to
Well if you weren't retarded you would realize regulations place cost burdens on companies that then get passed on to the consumer. When you have regulations that were created to further the climate change hoax, companies had to spend millions of dollars to implement compliance with the new regulations, which the consumer paid for.

Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:15 pm to
it's funny that the AC manufacturers are the ones that lobbied for the rules changes as soon as their patents ran out. I wonder who is going to manufacturer the cheaper refrigerants for our local AC guy, and which manufacturer will build new unit with the cheaper coolant
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:19 pm to
You get it!
Posted by Boss13
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:19 pm to
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I'd like to hear the logic behind this one


Did you not notice how the prices of new HVAC systems quadrupled? You think this was just because of inflation? The new refrigerants developed have zero compatibility with legacy systems and many are flammable enough to need addition protection systems built in. This means almost completely revamped supply trains and install methods.

Stop being a contrarian retard.
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Athis
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:23 pm to
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Not necessarily, there are a tons of legacy systems chugging along that can now be repaired instead of replaced, saving $1000s.


This is me.. My system is 18 years old but still working like a champ.. I had the maintenance done and the guy said that if I had to replace the compressor I would have to change out the entire system and that would cost $1000's.. I am no expert but I think the regulations have changed at least twice since I installed my AC 18 years ago... The latest change.. The new freon is extremely flammable.. Am I right about that?
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 1:25 pm
Posted by tigeraddict
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:24 pm to
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I'm not sure the administration understands that the damage has already been done.

See light bulbs or gas cans.


Manufacturers have already started to phase out the old R-134a systems and are already making the newer blended refrigerant systems that use the 2L flame rating refrigerants......


they can still keep making parts and compressors then for r-134a but the change will likely still happen, just slower....


and the new refrigerant is not as energy efficient as the older refrigerants, but more "environmentally" friendly
Posted by Boss13
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:25 pm to
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The new freon is extremely flammable.. Am I right about that?


Its not "extremely" flammable but its flammable enough for codes to be updated which is where its going to add costs.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:26 pm to
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I'd like to hear the logic behind this one

Why? It wouldn't make a difference to a dumbfrick like you.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:27 pm to
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regulations place cost burdens on companies that then get passed on to the consumer.


Correct. Regulations are hidden taxes.

Cutting regulations is like cutting taxes.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
59224 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:27 pm to
HVAC guys are all gonna sky scream because they make money on the democrats changing the refrigerants every 5 years
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77933 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:30 pm to
Freedom
Posted by Swamp Angel
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Member since Jul 2004
10197 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:35 pm to
When I see someone post:
quote:

Cut as many regulations as possible


and you respond with:
quote:

I'd like to hear the logic behind this one


it comes to my mind that you must have great aspirations of becoming president of your HOA so you can create more useless rules and regulations for all your neighbors.
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