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re: Trump "snookered" Iran. Tehran fell for a deal that gives US leverage to WALK AWAY!!

Posted on 6/21/26 at 8:12 am to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 8:12 am to
So, who cares about the MOU? Why not just do those things, anyway?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 8:13 am to
Lots of LARPing ITT
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 9:13 am to
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take out the IRGC

And how would you accomplish that?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27377 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 9:23 am to
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Please explain what benefits did the USA citizens get from Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq and now Iran.


Mostly death via war from those first three. From Iran IF we finish off the IRGC which we have the power to do, we get rid of the worlds largest sponsor of terror on the planet. This would have saved hundreds if not thousands of American lives had it been done from the get go decades ago.

It would give us revenge on the Americans killed because of Iran.

It would prevent Iran from firing missiles into the USA.
-- you can scoff at that but it was only very very recently they didn't have missiles that could reach much of Europe.
-- they we actively working on missiles to reach the USA.

Maybe it is just me, but I am not in favor of sitting on my hands when someone is assembling a rifle and at the same time keep yelling at me that they can't wait until it is finished so they can murder me and my family.

I understand you may not believe those words. I get that. Feel free to watch them put it together. I prefer not to just watch.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 9:59 am to
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And how would you accomplish that?


Cutoff all communications among the IRGC leadership and prevent food and water distribution.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:14 am to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:29 am to
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Cutoff all communications among the IRGC leadership and prevent food and water distribution.


How would you cutoff communications among their leadership? They can send a teenager on a moped with a letter?

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prevent food and water distribution.

So starve the population killing potentially millions of civilians like the Israelis do? What happens when the Iranians hit the desalinization plants for Saudi, UAE and Kuwait leaving our regional partners unable to provide water for their people or is that just the cost of doing business as well?

And while all of that is happening how are you avoiding the collapse of the global economy due to the inability to provide their economies with oil?

We are per the WH four weeks away from being out of oil reserves globally so thats your window without a firm means of reestablishing oil distribution for the 20% of the global oil and fertilizers that transit the strait currently.
This post was edited on 6/21/26 at 10:32 am
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23984 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:28 am to
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So starve the population killing potentially millions of civilians like the Israelis do?


Nice try, but no. Just cut off food and water to the IRGC.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 12:06 pm to
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Nice try, but no. Just cut off food and water to the IRGC.


How are you going to selectively cut off the food and water to just the IRGC?

You understand they run the entire nation?
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