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Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:22 pm to greygoose
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If your birth is the result of illegal entry, your birthright citizenship is null and void.
It's that simple.
Done.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:22 pm to CAD703X
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Tough day?
Not at all. Why would you assume that?
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:23 pm to greygoose
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I think the argument to be made, concering the 14th, is this:
If your birth is the result of illegal entry, your birthright citizenship is null and void.
That would ignore the actual text of the Constitution and make it a "living document"
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
Nothing in the 14th grants the parents of babies born in the US citizenship. All the EO has to say is that those parents have the option of putting the kid up for adoption or leaving the country with their kid.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I'm convinced that you are the dumbest retard, of all retards, that post on this site.
That would ignore the actual text of the Constitution and make it a "living document"
The 14th addressed slavery and citizenship. Considering the importation of slaves was banned for a very, very long time when the 14th came along, 60 motherfricking years, that means the parents of slaves were all born in this country when enacted. Former slaves were citizens, as were their children. If you think that anyone, voting on this amendment even remotely intended it to include the offspring of Miguel and Maria hopping the border and popping out a baby 5 seconds later, and that child being a citizen, then you are ever more mentally deficient than anyone could ever imagine!
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:48 pm to greygoose
SFP argument is akin to robbing a bank, keeping the stolen money, just because you currently possess it.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:49 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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Nothing in the 14th grants the parents of babies born in the US citizenship.
Which language excludes them?
Which major court decision supports this argument?
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:50 pm to greygoose
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SFP argument is akin to robbing a bank, keeping the stolen money, just because you currently possess it.
You're bad at this.
Read Wong Kim Ark and come back to discuss what "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
I’m really just giddy to see the originalist hoops Thomas and Alito will jump through to allow this.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:54 pm to boosiebadazz
The historical analysis Thomas championed in Bruen was already done in Wong Kim Ark. Would be funny to see how much the DEMs have upset him to make him turn his back on his own crowning achievement and ignore the historical analysis he added to the originalism/textualism he claims to support.
I posted a literal op-ed from Gorsuch earlier talking about how it's bad to make the Constitution a living document, which is what they're trying to do with this EO
I posted a literal op-ed from Gorsuch earlier talking about how it's bad to make the Constitution a living document, which is what they're trying to do with this EO
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
So precedent can not be challenged…ever?
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:57 pm to jimmy the leg
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So precedent can not be challenged…ever?
I already answered you.
That thread was posted on page 1 here.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I already answered you.
Link?
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:58 pm to boosiebadazz
They might point to the statements of the person who authored the citizenship clause in the 14th amendment who said it wouldn’t apply to children born in the US to foreigners and aliens.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:02 pm to TideSaint
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Trump Signs EO To Change The Definition Of Birthright Citizenship
This is the way.
The dem machine has twisted language and definitions to force their Marxism upon the nation.
Bash them over the head like a baby seal with their own club until they beg him to stop.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
Are you fricking retarded or something? Jose Ibarra got sentenced to life in prison for murdering Laken Riley.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:03 pm to jimmy the leg
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Link?
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That thread was posted on page 1 here.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:04 pm to Sizzle_DAWG
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Jose Ibarra got sentenced to life in prison for murdering Laken Riley.
Sounds like he's subject to the jurisdiction of US/state law, then.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
Typical leftist. Moving the goal post.
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