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re: Trump signing an executive order to reclassify marijuana from schedule 1 to schedule 3
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:31 pm to shutterspeed
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:31 pm to shutterspeed
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So, like caffeine and nicotene?
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:31 pm to hawgfaninc
I was just looking at the channel guide and MSNBC is showing some documentary called Reefer Madness.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:34 pm to hawgfaninc
I have no problem with this.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:42 pm to imjustafatkid
He just screwed a multi billion dollar hemp industry and everyone who uses hemp products like gummies for relief of various issues. The winners today are big government and big pharma. My disdain for this guy took another big leap.
Yes, the federal firearms ban currently still applies to anyone who uses marijuana, even with a prescription, as the drug remains a federally controlled substance. President Trump's executive order today, December 18, 2025, to expedite the process of moving marijuana from Schedule I to Schedule III does not immediately change this restriction.
The key reasons the ban remains in effect are:
Federal Law (18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(3)): This law prohibits the purchase or possession of a firearm by any "unlawful user of, or addicted to, any controlled substance".
Marijuana Remains Federally Illegal: The move to Schedule III does not legalize marijuana; it merely reclassifies it to a tier with less severe restrictions and recognized medical use potential. It remains subject to the Controlled Substances Act.
No Distinction by Schedule in Firearm Law: The federal firearm law currently makes no distinction between substances in different schedules (I, III, or V) when it comes to the "unlawful user" prohibition.
ATF Form 4473: The federal firearm transaction form (Form 4473) still explicitly asks if you are an "unlawful user of marijuana" and warns that its use remains illegal under federal law, regardless of state law. A "yes" answer will disqualify a purchase.
Ongoing Legal Challenges: The constitutionality of this ban, in cases such as United States v. Hemani, is currently under review by the Supreme Court, with arguments expected in early 2026; however, no ruling has been issued as of today.
Therefore, even for a medically accepted purpose or use legal under state law, federal law currently maintains the prohibition on owning or purchasing firearms for marijuana users.
Yes, the federal firearms ban currently still applies to anyone who uses marijuana, even with a prescription, as the drug remains a federally controlled substance. President Trump's executive order today, December 18, 2025, to expedite the process of moving marijuana from Schedule I to Schedule III does not immediately change this restriction.
The key reasons the ban remains in effect are:
Federal Law (18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(3)): This law prohibits the purchase or possession of a firearm by any "unlawful user of, or addicted to, any controlled substance".
Marijuana Remains Federally Illegal: The move to Schedule III does not legalize marijuana; it merely reclassifies it to a tier with less severe restrictions and recognized medical use potential. It remains subject to the Controlled Substances Act.
No Distinction by Schedule in Firearm Law: The federal firearm law currently makes no distinction between substances in different schedules (I, III, or V) when it comes to the "unlawful user" prohibition.
ATF Form 4473: The federal firearm transaction form (Form 4473) still explicitly asks if you are an "unlawful user of marijuana" and warns that its use remains illegal under federal law, regardless of state law. A "yes" answer will disqualify a purchase.
Ongoing Legal Challenges: The constitutionality of this ban, in cases such as United States v. Hemani, is currently under review by the Supreme Court, with arguments expected in early 2026; however, no ruling has been issued as of today.
Therefore, even for a medically accepted purpose or use legal under state law, federal law currently maintains the prohibition on owning or purchasing firearms for marijuana users.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:01 pm to hawgfaninc
This is what I voted for.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:03 pm to AlterEd
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means they still think it carries risk of dependency and that simply isn't true.
I disagree. Much like alcohol, it depends on the individual.
There are people who drink and smoke the stank who could quit anytime. Then there are others who become obsessive with it.
There also lies the issue with those diagnosed with mental illness. Those folks should not be consuming alcohol or marijuana at any level.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:04 pm to hawgfaninc
Even though Ive recently moved into the "marijuana is terrible for you" camp I will give DJT credit for this.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:07 pm to Hognutz
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He just screwed a multi billion dollar hemp industry and everyone who uses hemp products like gummies for relief of various issues.
I will take a bit more room in prison opened up for violent criminals
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:09 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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I will take a bit more room in prison opened up for violent criminals
Yes, our prisons are currently overflowing with folks who are nothing but casual potheads.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:24 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Let Trump threaten 2nd Amendment rights for those who self medicate with alcohol, treat it the exact same way, although nobody argues any medicinal benefits, and see if the same people still up vote that sht.
Fricken hypocritical mofos.
Fricken hypocritical mofos.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:31 pm to hawgfaninc
Druggies unite!!!
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:41 pm to LSURussian
Morally superior alcoholics celebrate...
Posted on 12/18/25 at 4:21 pm to AtticusOSullivan
Posted on 12/18/25 at 4:24 pm to hawgfaninc
So now the democrats will have to be pro fentanyl but anti marijuana to oppose Trump.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 4:25 pm to hawgfaninc
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"I promised to be the president of common sense."
You promised a lotta things Mr. President.
Stop tap-dancing. Start focusing on JUSTICE. DEPORTATIONS. The ECONOMY. Staying out of WARS. Stuff that matters. Is that really so hard to do?
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:04 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Yes, our prisons are currently overflowing with folks who are nothing but casual potheads.
Going from a Sch 1 to 3 is not just going to involve potheads on the couch. It is going to involve some guy in a dorm room that sells pot to some fraternity. Sentencing guidelines for some minor drug dealer are set by the Schedule the drug is on.
I particularly would rather they let that guy out of prison to make room for an extra gangbanger carjacking grandma.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:04 pm to Hognutz
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He just screwed a multi billion dollar hemp industry and everyone who uses hemp products like gummies for relief of various issues. The winners today are big government and big pharma. My disdain for this guy took another big leap.
Based on what you quoted, he didn't change anything about that.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:20 pm to imjustafatkid
All this does is make is much easier for it to be researched for various therapeutic uses at an actual lab. It makes it much easier to do real studies and, more importantly, be able to try and determine why THC makes people hungry and why it is a different type of painkiller than opioids.
It might change some sentencing guidelines, but in the grand scheme of things it does very little outside of changing how it can be researched.
There can now be much more research on the psychoactive impacts on THC and how there is more than likely a clinical link heavy THC use and violent behavior. With it being a schedule 1 drug, it requires major paperwork to be able to research it. Tons of mandatory approvals and authorizations between the DEA, HHS, and FDA to get any study approved, before you can legally acquire it to begin.
It might change some sentencing guidelines, but in the grand scheme of things it does very little outside of changing how it can be researched.
There can now be much more research on the psychoactive impacts on THC and how there is more than likely a clinical link heavy THC use and violent behavior. With it being a schedule 1 drug, it requires major paperwork to be able to research it. Tons of mandatory approvals and authorizations between the DEA, HHS, and FDA to get any study approved, before you can legally acquire it to begin.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:27 pm to Harry Caray
Yep, and Too bad John Baener wasn't more friendly to this when he was speaker with power,instead defeating this bc of Republicans WOD.
Now he is Getting paid by promoting the cheeb industry for them. Ain't that sumthin?
Now he is Getting paid by promoting the cheeb industry for them. Ain't that sumthin?
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:41 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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III means it's potentially addictive and still requires a prescription.
As a schedule III it can finally be studied to find out what it really is capable of doing or not doing. As a schedule I it could not be studied under a legitimate medical study.
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