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re: Trump says that federal workers who don't want to work in the office will be fired

Posted on 12/17/24 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71643 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 4:24 pm to
Exactly......you seem to do better with pictures, something that requires zero thinking.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 4:25 pm to
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Well, other than 221k people are entertained by that channel.



Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78246 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 4:26 pm to
The Fed Government has been hiring remote positions for years now. There is no office to go back into.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 4:29 pm to
Legend is right. Sadly, you're too dumb to think for yourself.

Well, I tried. Go back to your fake social media world.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36393 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 4:48 pm to
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If you have a marginal employee, is he easier to manage when he’s at home or when he’s down the hall?

If you have a marginal employee the issue is that the employee is marginal, not where the employee is located. You’re trying to put a bandaid on a problem, a marginal employee won’t be any less marginal in an office than at home. He will just be occupying space that he doesn’t need to occupy in an office.

The “fix” for ridding the government of marginal employees isn’t making them show up to work, it’s getting rid of them. If you have have competent employees working from home then it’s actually better for everyone because you’re saving money and still getting production out of a valuable employee. Not to mention you open your pool of candidates to a wider audience.


Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36393 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 4:52 pm to
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Everyone wants to work from home because it allows you to work less and do other shite a lot. But few people will admit it

There are plenty of people who work from offices that go into work and pretend to work all day.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19386 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 5:02 pm to
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A nobody criticizing someone that has 221k followers.

MSNBC has more followers. Doesn't make them accurate.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71643 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 5:14 pm to
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MSNBC has more followers. Doesn't make them accurate.

MSNBC is but one source/outlet these types rip off. Literally all they do is take the same stories/quotes from the outlets that have actual connections and sources and copy/paste it to their feeds. There is minimal to no new info. Sometimes they misrepresent what they steal in order to get their mindless followers riled up. They know very few of them will actually investigate anything beyond the tweet, so they're not worried about losing face, and even if they do they know that there are no repercussions.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32442 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 5:20 pm to
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Sometimes they misrepresent what they steal in order to get their mindless followers riled up.


Including a large percentage of this board.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38461 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:01 pm to
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Less than 3% of jobs in the market even offer hybrid schedules to date.
I'll take stats I literally just made up for 1000, Alex.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21898 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:05 pm to
Kinda silly. If it's not a job that needs to be in person, it's more efficient to not have to pay for facilities. I've worked remote for like 13 years now and I'm sure I do more work than I'd I had to drive into the office, people coming by my cube, going to lunch, etc etc
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154593 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:06 pm to
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But 221k people is a big following so he must be doing something right.


Mental illness. FFS. Pathetic.
Posted by Hookah
Member since Nov 2023
349 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:17 pm to
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I have no idea what you're getting at but if you're happy then cool.


You have no logical argument against WFH regardless of “my tax dollars”.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26924 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:00 pm to
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You have no logical argument against WFH regardless of “my tax dollars”.



Sure I do. Federal employees are difficult (bordering on impossible) to fire, so you've already essentially removed the stick from the "carrot & stick" motivations. WFH just lets the lazy people frick off more with no recourse. Having them in a building makes it easier for managers & coworkers to get actual work out of them. I'm having a hard time understanding why this even needs to be stated. Is it not obvious?

My wife works from home as does one of my sons, but they're not government employees and they can be fired.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26924 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:02 pm to
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If you have a marginal employee the issue is that the employee is marginal, not where the employee is located.


Thanks but that doesn't answer the question. I'll try again:
If you have a marginal employee, is he easier to manage when he's at home or when he's down the hall?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36393 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:11 pm to
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If you have a marginal employee, is he easier to manage when he's at home or when he's down the hall?


You’re not welcome.

You’re trying to solve the wrong problem. That’s the point.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
14733 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:14 pm to
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Federal employees are difficult (bordering on impossible) to fire, so you've already essentially removed the stick from the "carrot & stick" motivations.


It's actually not that hard if the supervisor would do his due diligence and the things they are required to do...

Once again circles back to the argument of hiring competent employees
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26924 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:18 pm to
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You’re trying to solve the wrong problem. That’s the point.


If I was then you wouldn't avoid answering the question. I'm looking at a problem that exists right now, you're claiming it won't be a problem IF we just fix some other things. But right now those other things are not fixed and won't be any time soon, so your premise is pointless.

By all means, restructure the federal government to where employees can be fire, but until you've done that, having them show up makes sense and can be done immediately. Making them easier to fire cannot.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36393 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:24 pm to
What’s your idea? To have a manager waste their time standing over a subpar employee poking them with a stick until they do their work? Look at results, manage the employee based upon the results of their work. You can do that from anywhere.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26924 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:26 pm to
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What’s your idea?


Still can't answer the question.
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