re: Trump said he's prepared to raise tariffs as trade war with China heats up

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Intention is irrelevant and impossible to truly know anyways. It’s not a tax because of intentions, although it’s good to know that you’re not only embracing a Bernie Sanders is economic policy, you’re embracing his emotional justifications as well.

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Did you miss this part of my post you responded to?

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I just don't see how you guys are missing his negotiation style. It's baffling. I mean it's right there in the open.

All Trump is doing is placing EVERYTHING on the negotiation table. Previous administration have removed tariffs from the negotiation table.


"How about we don't have tariffs for both countries?"

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It’s Tariff Time: What Can Adam Smith Teach Us About Trade Policy Today?

In regards to retaliatory tarrifs:

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When there is no probability that any such repeal [of a tariff in a foreign country] can be procured, it seems a bad method of compensating the injury done to certain classes of our people to do another injury ourselves, not only to those classes, but to almost all the other classes of them. When our neighbours prohibit some manufacture of ours, we generally prohibit, not only the same, for that alone would seldom affect them considerably, but some other manufacture of theirs. This may no doubt give encouragement to some particular class of workmen among ourselves, and by excluding some of their rivals, may enable them to raise their price in the home-market. Those workmen, however, who suffered by our neighbours prohibition will not be benefited by ours. On the contrary, they and almost all the other classes of our citizens will thereby be obliged to pay dearer than before for certain goods. Every such law, therefore, imposes a real tax upon the whole country, not in favour of that particular class of workmen who were injured by our neighbours prohibition, but of some other class.

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Although maybe you “not a tax” people are getting your economic views from Karl Marx instead.

What are your thoughts on all the taxes we have to pay to other countries to sell our stuff over there?

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are you implying, as the rest are, that the existence of the word "tariff" somehow implies that a tariff is not a tax?

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In an environment where taxes have been cut and referred to by the common nomenclature "taxes", and tariffs have been raised and referred to by the common nomenclature "tariffs", juxtaposition of the two terms is confusing.

In the same vein, I might say Michael Avenatti and Stormy Daniels were surreptitiously filmed engaged in intercourse. The reader would be misled into assuming the reference was to a sex act rather than a conversation.

That was the problem with the OP.

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because op clearly realized that many of y'all HATE HATE HATE hearing that

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Why do you keep saying this? Who hates it? Why do they hate it? Who even argues a tariff isn't a form of tax? Again, you're destroying an argument not being made. I'll let you tell me what that is called as a way to answer your other question.

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It also sucks for our producers because they won’t sell those goods that foreign citizens would have otherwise bought but opted to buy from their local producers because of their taxes.

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Sure. But the solution shouldn’t be to then raise the costs of goods on all 325 million to benefit a small portion of those who may benefit, unless you’re Bernie Sanders and the far left—the most ignorant group regarding economic policy—which has been their go to solution for years.

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sloppiness in not separating terms "tax" and "tariff" lies with VAT as a separate and distinct trade assessment from Tariff

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trump's not levying VATs, and to my knowledge hasn't announced that he's considering any. so what would the confusion be here

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Trump said he's prepared to raise taxes

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However it's disingenuous because tax implies income tax.

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wtf? Maybe if you skipped all of freshman level economics.