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re: Trump said he's prepared to raise tariffs as trade war with China heats up

Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124189 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:32 pm to
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Wow, touchy.
No.

Just tired of bullshitters who have no clue as to what they're bullshiiting about
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10232 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:33 pm to
Since I can't private message you, I'll just post this here, and without comment.

Listen to this:

LINK

Whether you agree, or disagree, it is well worth the listen, and explains why some informed Trump voters and supported are not concerned with tariffs, since they aren't going to be permanent.

What I'd be surprised if you disagree with it, are the arguments about supply change, and capital rushing out of China.

I said informed Trump voters/supports. There are as many Trump supporter that don't understand this policy position, or are even aware of it, as other voters.

This said, this isn't exactly the current policy, but with respct to tariffs, it is awfully close. Especially about what the end game is.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21303 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:34 pm to
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Somebody edited my thread title




Gnome, you know you are hated on several boards. Maybe that is your thing though.

Next time why not go with the title from the article, it weakens your point when you change it for agenda reasons.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29233 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:37 pm to
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it weakens your point when you change it for agenda reasons.



I think it made a fantastic point actually.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124189 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:37 pm to
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a tariff cannot strictly counteract a foreign tariff.
An attack cannot counter an attack?
How incredibly interesting.

Suffice it to say, you're apparently not a chess player, not a follower of military strategy, not a much of a follower of sports, nor do you understand trade strategy.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 4:38 pm
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:40 pm to
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Listen to this:

i'll read the transcript at some point soon
quote:

explains why some informed Trump voters and supported are not concerned with tariffs, since they aren't going to be permanent

if it's just a rehashing of muh deals or something similar i'll be disappointed
quote:

What I'd be surprised if you disagree with it, are the arguments about supply change

if by that you mean "supply chains", i'll be paying attention there. you don't need permanent tariffs to do long-term and costly damage to our supply chains
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124189 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:40 pm to
Delivering Alpha is a very good watch stem-to-stern
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124189 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:42 pm to
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I think it made a fantastic point actually.
.
It didn't, as was clearly pointed out to you.
But it was click bait.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10232 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:43 pm to
Surprisingly objective. The network is often left leaning, but some of their business stuff, which necessarily gets into geopolitical type conversations, are surprising in their impartiality, and somewhat "equal" time for both sides.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:43 pm to
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An attack cannot counter an attack?

^that's just sad

is that what i said, or did i say something much more specific, in response to your very specific claim about tariffs counteracting other tariffs?
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:45 pm to
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It didn't, as was clearly pointed out to you.

it did

what was most clearly pointed out was how irritated calling it a tax increase, which it is, made many of y'all
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21303 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:52 pm to
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I think it made a fantastic point actually.


That is the troll talking and not the adult talking.

You posted an article, that nobody read. It was not read because you changed the title on purpose to troll and engage negatively with other posters.

There were merits to be discussed, but that never really materialized.

It was just a trap and in the end it looks much worse for you than everyone else.

If you feel the need to do this to compensate for something in your life, there are better paths than changing the wording of an article. Both sides, left and right, provide ample troll level material.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124189 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:53 pm to
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it a tax increase, which it is
Intercourse is intercourse.
Going down is going down.
Screwing someone is screwing someone.

Yet you have not the least clue as to what any of that means in terms of this post.

Just as readers had no idea as to the OPs meaning until they realized they'd been misled.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:56 pm to
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Just as readers had no idea as to the OPs meaning

i did
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124189 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:56 pm to
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is that what i said
All battles are won before they are fought . . . the fact you're asking that question now is illustrative.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:00 pm to
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All battles are won before they are fought . . . the fact you're asking that question now is illustrative.


an attempt to draw equivalence along the lines of tariff : tax :: tariff : attack?

i see material differences between "tariff" and "attack", and between "counterattack" & "counteract"
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63225 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:02 pm to
As irritated as you are that the title now says tariff, which it is, and provides more clarity.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:05 pm to
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As irritated as you are that the title now says tariff

that's what happens in a safe space. if the fact that that's what this place is bothered me, i'd be long gone
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 5:06 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124189 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:07 pm to
It is what it is.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63225 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:07 pm to
My point is nobody is irritated. That's just the straw man you're pummeling long after you killed it. The original title was unclear and factually wrong. Now it's clear and factually right.

Or did Trump say tax and not tariff?
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