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re: Trump said he's prepared to raise tariffs as trade war with China heats up
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:08 pm to 90proofprofessional
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:08 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:Before you opened the thread? Really? Well Nostradamus, then you'll know what each example cited in the post you responded to means as well.
i did
Those were:
quote:Take your time.
Intercourse is intercourse.
Going down is going down.
Screwing someone is screwing someone.
Yet you have not the least clue as to what any of that means in terms of this post.
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:12 pm to GRTiger
quote:
The original title was unclear and factually wrong. Now it's clear and factually right.
There was nothing factually wrong about the original title. What’s been shown is that a lot of you don’t mind being taxed just so long as it’s called something else.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:12 pm to GRTiger
quote:
My point is nobody is irritated
reminder: your point not too long ago was that no one was saying that a tariff wasn't a tax, and some were
reminder_2: yeah, y'all mad. or at least were, when the thread was fresh
hey, looks like my 20k post will be ITT
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:14 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:
There was nothing factually wrong about the original title.
Trump didn't say he was prepared to raise taxes. Your title said he did.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:17 pm to GRTiger
quote:
Trump didn't say he was prepared to raise taxes. Your title said he did.
He did though. He said he was willing to tax Americans on all Chinese imports. That specific tax we call a tariff, but it is what it is.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:18 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:Correct.
There was nothing factually wrong about the original title
Just as there'd be noting factually wrong with me saying Jimmy Kimmel and Stormy Daniels had intercourse on the set and obviously enjoyed it.
Misleading?
You bet your arse.
Factually wrong?
Nope.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:19 pm to GRTiger
quote:You could argue the original title was unclear, but it was objectively correct since a tarriff is a tax.
Trump didn't say he was prepared to raise taxes. Your title said he did.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:22 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:
He did though.
No, he didn't. You can modify his statements based on whatever you're trying to say, just as long as you understand that you are in fact modifying them.
If Trump said "I watched a lawnmower go across the south lawn this morning" and you start a thread titled "Trump said he watched a vehicle go across the south lawn," your title would be wrong, even if the modification is still accurate yet regressive in its descriptive nature.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:23 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Take your time.
This weak sauce is what I'm going to hit 20K answering?
If I had a question on the specific meaning and cared, I'd probably open the thread. Usually when a statement obviously and purposefully leaves wiggle room for interpretation and litigation, it's likely there's at least partly some trolling at work, and/or an uncomfortable point being made. You know, actual misleading and purposefully unsubstantiated stuff gets posted in thread titles with some frequency around here.
quote:
Really? Well Nostradamus, then you'll know what each example cited in the post you responded to means as well.
Yep, before I opened the thread.
I also had a good idea that OP was getting at tariffs-are-taxes just from that. It seems likely that your examples, however, are made up. I know very well the context of the trade war and the import taxes Trump is threatening, but go ahead and throw out some sample thread titles describing news events involving intercourse or whatever and I'll hazard a guess
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:23 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:False!
Trump didn't say he was prepared to raise taxes. Your title said he did.
He did though
Trump used the term tariff. Everyone knows what tariff means.
Link the statement Trump made using the term "tax" or "taxes".
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:25 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Everyone knows what tariff means.
Nah a lot of you seem to be confused as hell about it.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:25 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:It doesn’t matter what he calls it, a tarrif is a tax. And if people are so up in arms about calling it what it is, then maybe they should worry about what it is instead of making some asinine arguments to downplay it to minimize the cognitive dissonance.
Trump used the term tariff. Everyone knows what tariff means.
Link the statement Trump made using the term "tax" or "taxes".
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:26 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:So no answer.
This weak sauce is what I'm going to hit 20K answering?
If I had a question on the specific meaning and cared, I'd probably open the thread. Usually when a statement obviously and purposefully leaves wiggle room for interpretation and litigation, it's likely there's at least partly some trolling at work, and/or an uncomfortable point being made. You know, actual misleading and purposefully unsubstantiated stuff gets posted in thread titles with some frequency around here.
quote:bullshite, Nostradamus. bullshite!
Yep, before I opened the thread.
You had your chance to prove your clairvoyance. You ducked.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:27 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:Facts notwithstanding.
Nah a lot of you seem
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:28 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:It does if he claims TRUMP SAID IT
It doesn’t matter what he calls it, a tarrif is a tax.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:31 pm to Iowa Golfer
quote:Meh.
The network is often left leaning
Possibly, but there are enough reasonable opinions there to keep it a bit balanced.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:31 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:OK. Well when Bernie starts talking about “living wages,” I expect you to use only the terminology that Bernie use the words he uses and not what it is in reality. Maybe he should start calling “income taxes” something like “poverty fighting fees” so we can’t argue that they are taxes since Bernie didn’t say they were.
It does if he claims TRUMP SAID IT
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:31 pm to DavidTheGnome
Gnome, the article said tariff. You changed that to tax to make it more confusing.
This was done with the intent to get attention and not bring a discussion point here.
This was just a sad troll, does that make you feel good?
Contrast that to your periodic space threads you do on the O-T. People thank you/enjoy them and they actually add value to the overall board.
Which one makes you feel better as a person? People thanking you for bringing them some knowledge or hating you for intentional misleading?
This was done with the intent to get attention and not bring a discussion point here.
This was just a sad troll, does that make you feel good?
Contrast that to your periodic space threads you do on the O-T. People thank you/enjoy them and they actually add value to the overall board.
Which one makes you feel better as a person? People thanking you for bringing them some knowledge or hating you for intentional misleading?
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:32 pm to NC_Tigah
A reasonable thought process:
Reads thread title: lol, why would Trump raise taxes as a result of Chinese tariffs?
Looks in thread: ah, he meant tariffs. Why would he say it that way? Dumb way to put it.
Reads link: oh, he did say tariffs. OK, that makes much more sense. Why would the title say he said taxes?
Looks at author: oh, probably a troll.
Reads thread title: lol, why would Trump raise taxes as a result of Chinese tariffs?
Looks in thread: ah, he meant tariffs. Why would he say it that way? Dumb way to put it.
Reads link: oh, he did say tariffs. OK, that makes much more sense. Why would the title say he said taxes?
Looks at author: oh, probably a troll.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:37 pm to DavidTheGnome
The fact is that the government withholding additional money from my earnings is functionally different than certain products becoming slightly more expensive. Your thread title was misleading in the common parlance. Your feigning ignorance of this is hackish frickery.
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