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re: Trump releases plan to defeat inflation
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:26 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:26 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
cannot truly defeat inflation with quantitative tightening. stop spreading ignorance.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:28 pm to Powerman
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People still have to go to the grocery store. Prices are still inflated. Yeah and nothing in this "plan" is going to change that
You have to be the weakest person on this board as far as economy goes. It’s actually laughable because of your name here. You do realize that energy IS what drives economies worldwide. It trickles down into everything that is produced whether agricultural, textile, or service sectors. High inputs mean higher priced food and services. This is basic economics. Wtf are you talking about? You should be ashamed for posting the stupid crap you do. If chicken had a “I am going to kick you for being a dumbass” button he should hit it now.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:29 pm to llfshoals
As op say.. oil hits below 60 … rigs start stacking.. fwiw I responded to a different op in another thread earlier..
Put some effort in it so yall could see different views.
Drill baby drill is pt Barnum yanking your chain…
From my previous post…..
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Why was gas less than $2.00 a gallon when Trump was in office and now over $3.00”
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2019…..we had over 950 rigs on average drilling in the US… in 2020 we had on average 250 rigs drilling in the us and yes gasoline pump prices dropped to 2 bucks.. so less rigs drilling but out of norm low pump prices..so when trump left office we had 250 rigs drilling … we now have around 650 rigs drilling…..
So why were pump prices low.. opec was losing market share and wanted to put small US operators out of business so they flooded the market.. it worked …so they then could cut back their production to make sure they were happy with their market share and price… ie profits….
For us resource plays to be profitable and invest capital oil needs to be above 50-60 dolllars.. for lots of legacy opec oil they make money when oil over a few dollars.. new discoveries are a little higher..
In 2020 the oil industry was in shambles and yall were cheering trump to get those saudis to back off on production and the price of oil back up…
Ok… why do we export so much oil and import.. well our refineries are fitted for a specific quality of oil.. oil coming out of ground varies.. we export oil that is out of specs for many USrefineries .. and have to import others that is within spec..
Again it is global economics not politics.. we had an offshore lease sale last years and feds opened up most of the gulf.. oil companies bought about very small percent available that they determined had potential.. we do no frac offshore so fracking regulations mean nothing.. it takes a minimum of ten years from discovery to first oil pumped in offshore.
We can frac on private land so regulations do not stop.. I do not want them fracking on a lot of fed land myself since a lot of it is parks … I like my tent a good distance from wellheads..
Put some effort in it so yall could see different views.
Drill baby drill is pt Barnum yanking your chain…
From my previous post…..
…………….
Why was gas less than $2.00 a gallon when Trump was in office and now over $3.00”
in
2019…..we had over 950 rigs on average drilling in the US… in 2020 we had on average 250 rigs drilling in the us and yes gasoline pump prices dropped to 2 bucks.. so less rigs drilling but out of norm low pump prices..so when trump left office we had 250 rigs drilling … we now have around 650 rigs drilling…..
So why were pump prices low.. opec was losing market share and wanted to put small US operators out of business so they flooded the market.. it worked …so they then could cut back their production to make sure they were happy with their market share and price… ie profits….
For us resource plays to be profitable and invest capital oil needs to be above 50-60 dolllars.. for lots of legacy opec oil they make money when oil over a few dollars.. new discoveries are a little higher..
In 2020 the oil industry was in shambles and yall were cheering trump to get those saudis to back off on production and the price of oil back up…
Ok… why do we export so much oil and import.. well our refineries are fitted for a specific quality of oil.. oil coming out of ground varies.. we export oil that is out of specs for many USrefineries .. and have to import others that is within spec..
Again it is global economics not politics.. we had an offshore lease sale last years and feds opened up most of the gulf.. oil companies bought about very small percent available that they determined had potential.. we do no frac offshore so fracking regulations mean nothing.. it takes a minimum of ten years from discovery to first oil pumped in offshore.
We can frac on private land so regulations do not stop.. I do not want them fracking on a lot of fed land myself since a lot of it is parks … I like my tent a good distance from wellheads..
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:31 pm to Bonkers119
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Bonkers119
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Yes it has lol. Inflation might have slowed down during longer period of times, but those were usually accompanied by slower economic expansion
Inflation 1929-2023
The whole purpose of capitalism is to keep growing and expanding your economy. Deflation is bad. Deflation brings recessions/depressions.
That chart shows that there has always been inflation, and there will always be.
Now, find a chart from like 1865-1912.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:34 pm to Jim Ed Love
Cutting regulations and slowing/stopping illegal immigration will surely have an impact.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:34 pm to Thecoz
That is swell what you posted. What you do not get is world economics and our debt. The one portion you focused on does not cover the entire story. Dig deeper.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:36 pm to Bonkers119
This MF here stands in opposition of every one of these items just because Trump totes it. Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:37 pm to Warboo
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You do realize that energy IS what drives economies worldwide. It trickles down into everything that is produced whether agricultural, textile, or service sectors.
And the energy sector is very strong right now
So I don't see any drastic improvements by changing presidents
Sorry if you're foolish enough to think that will happen
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:38 pm to Warboo
drill baby drill impacts that also.. please explain .. I responded to drill baby drill..
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:38 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
He’s responsible for 23% of inflation. I’d be pleased if he took that back, but know he won’t
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:39 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
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Kamala releases same plan in 15 minutes...
5D chess. He's going to implement his entire agenda before he ever gets back into office.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:39 pm to BamaCoaster
Lmao you can’t be serious. Do you honestly think prices of goods stayed the same price for 47 years???
Also that was the Period of Reconstruction. The economy grew massively and so did the population. It went from 30 million people to 95 million.
Also that was the Period of Reconstruction. The economy grew massively and so did the population. It went from 30 million people to 95 million.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:39 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
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This MF here stands in opposition of every one of these items just because Trump totes it. Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.
For the record, I don't disagree with any of these proposed ideas
I just don't see any of them having a tangible effect specifically on inflation
And lowering taxes likely increases inflation. It just gives you more money in the pocket to buy inflated goods.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:39 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
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This MF here stands in opposition of every one of these items just because Trump totes it. Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.
Truth
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:42 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
That’s a solid policy, and Trump has a record that tells us he can get it done.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:44 pm to Thecoz
Ya, in the famous words of Phineas Taylor Barnum " There is a sucker born every minute "
He was a Yankee politician before he became a huckster.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:46 pm to Jim Ed Love
So, if Kamala is elected and she passes regulations to stop fracking and limit drilling is that not going to hurt supply?
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:51 pm to Powerman
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And the energy sector is very strong right now So I don't see any drastic improvements by changing presidents Sorry if you're foolish enough to think that will happen
Let’s look at it like this. Energy makes the world go around right. When we were energy independent or had a surplus our economy was booming. Less regulations and less taxes made for more investments in energy and other sectors of our economy. When you strangle both you cause a net negative of deficit in trade. The Chinese are masters in using our debt that (they hold the note on) they can manipulate via currency manipulation and interest. We are producing more and getting less for it. Meanwhile we are paying Chinese induced taxes on goods received. You want inflation to soar? Do what we have been doing. It is crazy and mind blowing what is happening.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:51 pm to Powerman
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Please explain to me how you think cutting taxes will reduce inflation
Because a manufacture of goods can spend less on taxes and add production capability, increasing supply that reduces demand, and subsequently lowers prices.
Hello McFly, tell your mom I said hello for me.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:52 pm to Gee Grenouille
And that's negated by more money in the hands of consumers increasing demand pull. It does nothing to combat inflation.
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