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Trump owes lenders $450 million yet there were no complaints from the lenders.

Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:23 am
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45994 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:23 am
I read The NY Times piece on Trump's lawfare trial and the judge determined that Trump owes several lenders around $450 million which includes interest payments. The piece also said every lender received the original agreed upon loan repayments.

If I'm understanding this ruling by the Dim judge then it appears the $450 million goes to the various lenders who stated they had no issues with the loan agreements to the Trump Organization.

What would be truly outstanding is Trump being told by every satisfied lender involved in this obvious lawfare against Trump to keep your money Mr President.....we're good.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7364 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:27 am to
To the bankruptcy attorneys out there, if Trump were to declare bankruptcy, and liquidate his assets. Who gets paid first the lien holders or legal judgments?

It might be his only f—- you option depending on how shielded some of his assets are.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54622 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:32 am to
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Trump were to declare bankruptcy, and liquidate his assets. Who gets paid first the lien holders or legal judgments?


Neither

IRS is the 800 lb gorilla in the room

While all these other issues are in the public eye 24 / 7 / 365, the IRS still has an open account and has managed to stay out of the camera.

Think about that.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54622 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:33 am to
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lenders


lender (singular)

DB is in Germany but owned by the Russians
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6384 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:33 am to
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if Trump were to declare bankruptcy


Trump has filed for bankruptcy many times in the past.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42532 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:37 am to
I always thought NYstate would get it
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54622 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:37 am to
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Trump has filed for bankruptcy many times in the past.


I think he has 6 to 8 corporate ones that stuck but no personal yet.
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
2969 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:49 am to


... no, you are looking at this wrong because there is a purpose ...

Back in 2007 when the banking industry took a hit and several banks had to close, like Lehman Brothers. In actually this action was a flat out bank robbery because the globalists needed a huge amount of cash right away to fund the building of the Crowdstrike computer.
And here we are today, with the bank robbery of First Republic Bank that happened in May of 2023 and now Trump ...

Pure and simple bank robbery.
Because this is who these people are. Bank robbers --- relatives of bank robbers who need money badly.




Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6901 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:52 am to
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Trump has filed for bankruptcy


NOPE. Trump-owned LLCs have gone bankrupt-if the bank did not require a PERSONAL guarantee, then he's not on the hook
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5614 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:01 am to
Trump was denied his constitutional right to a jury trial by the judge,illegal.statutes of limitations may have run out.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54622 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:13 am to
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Trump was denied his constitutional right to a jury trial


Which trial?

Pretty sure his lawyers / DJT opted out up front then asked back in after the fact.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1004 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:15 am to
And the banks testified that they were not duped!

Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10265 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:16 am to
This is how the judge is determining that Trump is “guilty “ by showing supposed criminal intent. It’s all bullshite but getting headlines and headaches
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29148 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:41 am to
Haven't been following it all but if he did misrepresent his assets that's fraud and it doesn't matter if they were paid in full. They took on more risk than they were aware of.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98577 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:43 am to
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To the bankruptcy attorneys out there, if Trump were to declare bankruptcy, and liquidate his assets


He can't discharge the judgment debt because they found fraud. This was a deliberate economic attack.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15674 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:52 am to
People don’t understand the precedent this case could set. It’s incredibly dangerous to let the government come in and retroactively tell a borrower that his terms were too favorable based on valuations. The favorability of the terms is subjective, and the valuations are opinions by definition, so also subjective.

There was no loss or harm to any of the parties involved. I hope this somehow makes it to SCOTUS, but I’m not sure how that process might work.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 10:53 am
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45994 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 11:05 am to
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I always thought NYstate would get it


Interesting.

Why would the state of New York be entitled to any of the settlement when they had no involvement in the loan agreements.....that were paid in full to the lenders?
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
11442 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 11:08 am to
Honest question…where are the appraisals and what did they indicate that the assets were valued at?
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
4920 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 11:15 am to
Any judgment amount, if paid, would result in an unearned windfall to someone, either Deutsch Bank or the state of NY. There was no “victim” here.
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5614 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 11:17 am to
I can assure you it was professional appraisers,values can be different depending on the market and economy.loans were repaid on time and no complaints from lenders.
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