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re: Trump new tweet on Ukraine: thinks they can win back all land, maybe even gain land

Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68441 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:02 pm to
The sycophants will say he is just applying pressure to Vlad to end it.

I think it was burger bearcat who said he should have cut off everything immediately upon taking office. Now, it's just like a festering sore.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68441 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13176 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:03 pm to
The MIC must continue.

I did not vote for this.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
19812 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:03 pm to
Trump is a master negotiator. He probably doesn’t believe this but he is planting a seed in Putin’s mind. Also this puts Europe on notice and in effect says put up or shut up. This is your problem.

It does not say our forces will be involved.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68441 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:04 pm to
Is it really 8D chess anymore when everyone knows the Art of the Deal?
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
2829 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:04 pm to
Dude writes a book on negotiating that was on the MBA reading list for decades and does exactly what he outlines in the book.

All day every day.

But that don't let stop the reeeeeeeeeeee.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:04 pm to
quote:


The sycophants will say he is just applying pressure to Vlad to end it.



Bevore long they'll love the ghost of Mccain and the sliminess of Lindsay Graham.

"Whatever Trump says on a given day" is the MAGA policy
Posted by EastWestConnection
Denver/Shenzhen/Belfast
Member since Jul 2024
1990 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:05 pm to
does anyone think he actually gives a shite about Ukraine?

I mean I dont, I wish he just completely cut the cord and forget about Ukraine
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

The Donald W. Bush administration

Its like he is governing for the approval of Brian Kilmeade and other FOX News boomercons


Unfortunately this is accurate. The only thing Trump has kept his promise on is immigration. Lindsey Graham and the rest of the Neocons have successfully transferred their failed War in Ukraine to Trump's Presidency now
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12350 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:05 pm to
Oh it’s wild…Wild to see how erratic his foreign policy is.

But it’s not to disparage him. I’d rather him try something else… like finally not sucking up to Putin on the world stage.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:06 pm to
quote:


Dude writes a book on negotiating that was on the MBA reading list for decades and does exactly what he outlines in the book.


There is a massive difference in negotiating a company merger and international diplomacy.

I have no doubt Trump understands the former, but hes in over his head on the latter.

Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
6706 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:06 pm to
I don’t think Trump has ever gave up on those minerals in Ukraine. He may be getting some specific information that makes him think he can weaken Russia enough to get them yet.
Posted by Loner
Member since Sep 2025
203 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

We a decade on with Trump and folks still oblivious to his negotiating strategy and bite down hard every single time.

Agreed but those are some long sentences
Posted by bamalee
Member since Jan 2009
1299 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:07 pm to
He is putting pressure on European Nato countries, either you guys take some pain or we are out. You have talking your talk now, let's see if you stop buying Russian gas, and indian gasoline, I bet Europe doesn't, they are cowards who crave power...
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10825 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:09 pm to
Classic Art of the Deal.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
6706 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:10 pm to
Stop buying gas from Russia and India and buy more from the United States or else. Oh and by the way we will sell you guys more weapons to give to Ukraine too. Lol you gotta love the guy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

Classic Art of the Deal.


Gotcha

So all that anti Ukraine talk the past couple of years was simply bluffing...eh?
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
2829 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:13 pm to
View Trump in the role of mediator here. He'll hammer one side for a while then go back hammer on the other side.

This is a process playing out. He doing it his way.

Problem is not everybody likes Trump's way.

Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

The sycophants will say he is just applying pressure to Vlad to end it.



It was easy to see after the Oval Office Outburst by Zelensky and Trump did not end the War at that time, it was not going to happen. He had all the leverage, all he had to do was tell Zelensky you ate giving up the remaining 15% of the 4 oblast you don't control and the War is over. If you don't, no more Weapons or Intelligence. Zelensky would have signed the documents in 2 weeks after not getting any help
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122881 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:16 pm to
Trump v2 has been mostly a clown show
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