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re: Trump looking to reclassify marijuana?

Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:35 pm to
A patient cured is a customer lost.
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:38 pm to
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A patient cured is a customer lost
A patient cured is a future opportunity for another cure and then another and another into senescence.
Posted by geoag58
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:40 pm to
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Posted by geoag58
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:42 pm to
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Don't tell Dan Patrick that.


No, to the contrary, someone needs to let Dan Goeb, the Maryland carpet bagger, know this!
Posted by riccoar
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:43 pm to
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I'm no expert but i believe states could still have their own prohibition or regulations in place.


I believe so. Just like not every State has the same alcohol volume in beer.

My Dad would stockpile his when traveling to Florida for vacay.
Posted by BigBinBR
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:43 pm to
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Well most states have already moved to decriminalize it but it's a problem because it's still criminal at the federal level. Reclassifying it would help to move the reluctant states remaining to decriminalize it as well.

Another thing this would do would be to make it accessible to veterans who use the VA for their health care allowing many people with persistent pain not have to take pharmaceutical pills every day to make it through the day.

Would be a huge deal really.


It would also allow marijuana growers and dispensaries to be able to have access to traditional banking.
Posted by billjamin
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:44 pm to
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Reclassifying it would help to move the reluctant states remaining to decriminalize it as well.


Maybe. But maybe not. Look at what they're trying to do in Texas. Dan Patrick isn't going to back down just because the feds do something. He thinks he's on a crusade to save children (and fill his pockets with alcohol lobby money)
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Another thing this would do would be to make it accessible to veterans who use the VA for their health care allowing many people with persistent pain not have to take pharmaceutical pills every day to make it through the day.

Completely agree. I support full blown legalization. I just worry that many states will still go the dry county route.
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:46 pm to
I'm sure once the GOP sees it resonating with the majority of people, they'll line up against it to ensure their goal of losing the house.
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:48 pm to
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2025 and THC is still illegal for some but, drink up folks.



While I totally understand and mostly agree with this point with regards to the substance and its potential dangers.... there is no question how much worse shite would be if pot were legal and alcohol made illegal.

Alcohol is the superior drug, all in all. I know a bunch of weed heads will hate on that statement without a doubt. I don't mind a little ganj. It's good for you. But alcohol is -far- superior at relieving the daily grind or the grind that life offers for the vast majority of adults... when the person isn't an alcoholic, and can handle their libations in a healthy way.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:49 pm to
I would almost prefer regulating it like alcohol. There are risks and contraindications, just like any powerful substance. It is largely going to be a net negative.

Recall I'm the "The dope? Stay off it. Nancy Reagan was right" guy. I remind folks of how it increases the risk of psychosis and related problems, especially in the young. Increased risk of seizures. It impairs the ability of medicine to control mental health symptoms. Demotivational syndrome is real. While not strictly speaking "addictive", it is strongly habit forming for some folks.

It is not the panacea its advocates make it out to be. I say all of this and I still cannot reconcile a society that says it's okay for adults ( or 21-year olds at least) to drink alcohol and smoke cigs, with MJ heavily regulated under Schedule 1.
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:52 pm to
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Are you capable of having a single thought that isn't about left vs right


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Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:53 pm to
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Alcohol is the superior drug, all in all. I know a bunch of weed heads will hate on that statement without a doubt. I don't mind a little ganj. It's good for you. But alcohol is -far- superior at relieving the daily grind or the grind that life offers for the vast majority of adults... when the person isn't an alcoholic, and can handle their libations in a healthy way.

I don't know that I'd agree with any of that. Alcohol even in moderation increases your caloric intake and messes with sleep patterns. I've never known someone have trouble sleeping after smoking a joint or eating some edibles.

And no one is saying that we need to make alcohol illegal to make pot legal so it's silly to even bring that up.
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:54 pm to
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I've never known someone have trouble sleeping


Then you haven't known many. It absolutely disrupts proper sleep. So does alcohol.

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And no one is saying that we need to make alcohol illegal to make pot legal so it's silly to even bring that up.



Have you ever heard of a hypothetical? Those are used for thought exercise.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:55 pm to
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I would almost prefer regulating it like alcohol. There are risks and contraindications, just like any powerful substance. It is largely going to be a net negative.

In states where it is legal it is in fact regulated.

I was in Colorado earlier this year and they check your ID and limit how much you can buy (I'm guessing to try to prevent sale to minors on the secondary market) And you actually have to go to a dispensary. You can't just get it at a gas station. So in that sense it's already more regulated than alcohol.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:57 pm to
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Have you ever heard of a hypothetical? Those are used for thought exercise.

Sure. I just don't think it was a particularly useful thought exercise. And your exercise sort of ignores reality. The reality is a lot of people do over consume alcohol.
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:58 pm to
As I understood a story on this is that the reporting agencies that monitored the commercial making of it is backed by those growers and the weed is full of heavy metals and chemicals. I’m guessing that in putting in a different class could allow them banking but more importantly allow growers to be approved by actual fda monitoring.
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:59 pm to
Most everything is about politics in some way.
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:59 pm to
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2025 and THC is still illegal for some but, drink up folks.



I don't smoke but this is where I've always fallen on this.

I can eat a handful of oxys and die.

I can chug a handle of jack daniels and die.

Nobody has ever smoke weed in flower form and overdosed.

The addiction talk is a straw man argument and is usually applied without context.

I just see no real negatives to legalization.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:00 pm to
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And your exercise sort of ignores reality. The reality is a lot of people do over consume alcohol.


I never implied anything to the contrary.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:02 pm to
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While I totally understand and mostly agree with this point with regards to the substance and its potential dangers.... there is no question how much worse shite would be if pot were legal and alcohol made illegal.


Give an example of how worse it would be.

I'm 61, MIGHT have a good glass of whisky with a cigar on a special occasion. No beer!

A gummy, when the little aches and pains creep in, instead of the horse shite a doctor wants to prescribe works best for me.

Government shouldn't pick winners and loser.

Adults should be able to do adult things.

What bothers me most is, the very tax dollars I pay, they use to prevent me from doing what I want to do as a free man.

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