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re: Trump going after social conservatives again
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:00 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:00 pm to RollTide1987
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I also find it funny that these whataboutisms deal with <1% of pregnancies women undergo every year.
REEEEALY "Rookie numbers" according to Planned DeadBabyhood. Yet...they'll toss them into "we need muh-Abortions" stat basket.
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:01 pm to AggieHank86
I'll make the Big Announcement at the appropriate time.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:03 pm to burger bearcat
Once again, TRUMP is right.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:03 pm to burger bearcat
i'm pretty down on trump lately, especially after the midterms, but he's not wrong whatsoever here...
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:04 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Right. There are something in the neighborhood of 6.5M pregnancies in the US per yr. 1% is ~65,000 "whataboutisms" EACH year.
I also find it funny that these whataboutisms deal with <1% of pregnancies women undergo every year.
You "find it funny" because you really aren't aware of that number.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:04 pm to AggieHank86
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If you did not advocate for “no exceptions,” people would not point you to situations in which exception should be granted.
Because a life is a life. A child conceived in rape or incest is just as much of a person as a child conceived in consensual sex between a husband and his wife. By providing exceptions you lose the moral high ground. You might lose the political argument, but your conscience and your soul will still be intact. And to me that is more important. Some hills are worth dying on no matter how lost the cause seems.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:05 pm to NC_Tigah
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There are something in the neighborhood of 6.5M pregnancies in the US per yr. 1% is ~65,000 "whataboutisms" EACH year.
You "find it funny" because you really aren't aware of that number.
And....your point is? I don't care if it's the vast majority of them. A life is a life.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:10 pm to RollTide1987
Abortion is part of God’s plan. If God thinks these babies shouldn’t see the light of day then who are we to question him?
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:12 pm to RollTide1987
quote:My point is, you are either poorly informed, or irrational.
And....your point is?
quote:Indeed.
A life is a life.
So let's review:
"Once recovered, she can have several other beautiful children. Instead zealots, under the guise of "conservatism," would sentence both the mother AND her fetus to death."
A life is a life.
Two lives are two lives... Plus the other children your, now dead, mom might have had.
Winning!
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:14 pm to NC_Tigah
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My point is, you are either poorly informed, or irrational.
And you are selfish and conceited.
quote:
"Once recovered, she can have several other beautiful children. Instead zealots, under the guise of "conservatism," would sentence both the mother AND her fetus to death."
Except it isn't automatically a death sentence as I showed you in reply to your response to my original post in this thread.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:18 pm to Stonehog
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Abortion is part of God’s plan. If God thinks these babies shouldn’t see the light of day then who are we to question him?
This ignores the fact that God gave us free will. By this argument, homicide is also in God's plan. Why outlaw it?
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:20 pm to RollTide1987
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I also find it funny that these whataboutisms deal with <1% of pregnancies women undergo every year.
It’s a two way street. The “no exceptions” law strictly prohibit abortions in those <1% pregnancies
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:21 pm to RollTide1987
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By this argument, homicide is also in God's plan. Why outlaw it?
God doesn’t make laws my guy.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:21 pm to Stonehog
quote:So when you die choking on a dildo, I'll be sure to point this out at your funeral for the two attendees.
Abortion is part of God’s plan.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:23 pm to VolcanicTiger
Ooh, touchy.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:24 pm to Stonehog
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God doesn’t make laws my guy.
He actually does. Western Civilization's moral code is based heavily on His laws.
I highly recommend the book Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World by the secular historian Tom Holland for more information on this.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:25 pm to RollTide1987
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He actually does. Western Civilization's moral code is based heavily on His laws.
No it isn’t.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:27 pm to Stonehog
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No it isn’t.
As I said in my edit, I highly recommend Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World by the secular historian Tom Holland to cure you of your ignorance. For instance, it was legal for a Roman to rape his wife without fear of punishment. It is still legal to do so in many places in the east. The introduction of Christian philosophy ended that practice here in the west.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:28 pm to AggieHank86
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A woman should have the option to exercise her rights early in the pregnancy, when the fetus is not even close to having achieved sapience.
How close to sapience do the unborn have to be? Would a day be close enough? A week?
This seems to be an arbitrary definition of life.
At conception, one's DNA, i.e., essential being, is fixed. It precedes sentience/sapience/first breath/puberty/full development and actually self-directs the person toward all of these.
Personhood is not defined by function.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:29 pm to RollTide1987
quote:You're out of your depth here. That's not a matter of "conceit." On this topic, it's just a matter of fact.
Except it isn't automatically a death sentence
So instead of one life, you're for taking two lives, and eliminating possibility of a couple of others, plus sentencing a young mom and wife to death?
Yet you're calling others selfish? That is audacious, brother.
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