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Trump considering raising top marginal income rates to 40%?

Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:42 pm
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:42 pm
I've seen some articles mentioning this but I'm not seeing anything official that would suggest this is the case
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The new top rate could be around 39% to 40%, according to Bloomberg

Most Americans (58%) want higher taxes on households making $400K-plus:

Republicans have generally opposed tax hikes over the years


This is from News Nation which is a Hindi publication so I'm not inclined to take it seriously.

LINK


AP is reporting that the Senate is moving ahead with a different approach


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The Senate bill proposes keeping nearly $4 trillion in existing tax cuts, and adding $1.5 trillion in new ones. It bolsters spending for defense, homeland security, the judiciary and the Coast Guard to more than $500 billion, though Graham has signaled it would likely end up closer to $345 billion.

As for the size of the spending cuts, it’s still a work in progress. The Senate sets a much lower floor of $1 billion in reductions each for committees handling health care, food stamps and other programs. However, that can be raised, if needed, to compromise with the House’s estimated $2 trillion in cuts.


Will be interesting to see what the actual passed tax legislation is

AP Link
Posted by OysterPoBoy
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:45 pm to
Here comes the dems to say we need low tax rates for the rich.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:46 pm to
The dems are saying precisely the opposite and claiming that the proposed GOP tax plan will add trillions to the deficit in the coming years

Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:47 pm to
Figure out why Gates and Buffet keep saying they don't pay attention aces address that as well
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:53 pm to
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Figure out why Gates and Buffet keep saying they don't pay attention aces address that as well

Can you elaborate more on that comment?

I've always thought that people like Gates and Buffet that complain about the wealthy not being taxed enough should be sending checks to the treasury. No one is stopping them from voluntarily paying more.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:56 pm to
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The new top rate could be around 39% to 40%, according to Bloomberg


The more important question than the rate is the cutoff. The fact so many don't understand this is embarrassing.

quote:

Most Americans (58%) want higher taxes on households making $400K-plus:

Because they're fricking morons and think this will affect the ultra rich.

quote:

Republicans have generally opposed tax hikes over the years
Because they don't work if you define "work" as having any real long term effect on budgets. All it ends up doing is locking in new levels of spending.
Posted by DallasTiger11
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:59 pm to
I highly doubt they are going to meaningfully cut spending no matter what they are saying right now
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:00 pm to
Yeah there aren't that many W-2 employees making over 400K

Really the only way you're going to get significant revenue increases in the form of income taxes is raising rates at a lower threshold like 180K or something
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:00 pm to
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raising top marginal income rates


If he does this he can eat a pile of shite.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:02 pm to
THIS
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:02 pm to
We’re in late stage Rome with somewhat of a reprieve on the cultural war
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

I've seen some articles mentioning this but I'm not seeing anything official that would suggest this is the case


If the TCJA subsets the top marginal rate would go from 37 to 39.6. Trumps proposal is to extend the TCJA rates. This is a huge nothingburger.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:06 pm to
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I've always thought that people like Gates and Buffet that complain about the wealthy not being taxed enough should be sending checks to the treasury. No one is stopping them from voluntarily paying more.


I agree with you but what are they paying and is it really that low? What are those loopholes?

The tax loans on stock above basis makes sense. What are those loopholes?

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

Yeah there aren't that many W-2 employees making over 400K


I think you would be surprised.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

Really the only way you're going to get significant revenue increases in the form of income taxes is raising rates at a lower threshold like 180K or something


We could get some revenue from the people who currently pay zero income taxes. That would be a good start.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

The new top rate could be around 39% to 40%, according to Bloomberg


Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:13 pm to
Remember when you laughed at me when I said JD Vance would be the VP pick?

That was great
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:16 pm to
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I think you would be surprised

Not really. I know they exist but that's probably in the 3% of top earners. I'd have no issue with that rare going to 40% honestly. But old school Republicans would act like it would kill off the entire Republic
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

Yeah there aren't that many W-2 employees making over 400K

That's ALWAYS been the lib game. "Look all those CEOs, Billionaires etc etc and how obscenely rich they are! We must do something. RAISE INCOME TAXES!!!" LOL

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Really the only way you're going to get significant revenue increases in the form of income taxes is raising rates at a lower threshold like 180K or something

Which is what conservatives have been pointing our FOREVER whenever someone says, "we don't have a spending problem, we have a revenue problem".
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:27 pm to
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The dems are saying precisely the opposite and claiming that the proposed GOP tax plan will add trillions to the deficit in the coming years


Like they care about the debt.

What I read is the plan will add 5.7 trillion of debt over a decade. Which is a deficit under 600 billion a year. Which would be a great improvement and more manageable if we have low interest rates and good gdp growth
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