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Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:30 am to Ailsa
Trump once again pulls the same negotiating tactic and wins spectacularly because his opposition is unable to act logically and lets their emotions destroy their negotiation positioning
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:33 am to Ailsa
We.... we already have total military access to Greenland. We have for decades. Denmark agreed to all that back in the 50s officially and in the 40s unofficially. We used to have a lot more bases and people up there.
The country responsible for our current deployment numbers in Greenland is... the United States. It's expensive as hell to keep people up there. Which is why we mostly don't and let the Greenlanders and Denmark military handle things.
The head of NATO basically got Trump to agree to a policy that has been in place for 70 years.
The country responsible for our current deployment numbers in Greenland is... the United States. It's expensive as hell to keep people up there. Which is why we mostly don't and let the Greenlanders and Denmark military handle things.
The head of NATO basically got Trump to agree to a policy that has been in place for 70 years.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:40 am to IvoryBillMatt
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What makes you think we have full access to their resources?
The funny thing is, they also don’t realize we already have access to the minerals, there’s multiple extraction projects going on there with American companies.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:55 am to GhostOfFreedom
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I am concerned about the millions of CCP shipping containers around the country and businesses.
How many prepositioned nukes, chemical and bioweapons have been put around sensitive locations around the country?
As well we should be -- legit concerns.
However this vulnerable security SNAFU is compounded by the 600,000 Chi-Com students Trump says will be admitted into the US. How many of THEM might be "moonlighting" at the docks and embedded tactically at "sensitive locations around the country"?
The "reason"? The President irresponsibly claims the "students" are essential for American Universities "to survive financially".
Posted on 1/22/26 at 12:01 pm to Arksulli
quote:its so cute y'all think this is over.
The head of NATO basically got Trump to agree to a policy that has been in place for 70 years.
now that visions of $100,000 paydays are dancing in the heads of those whale-blubber eating eskimos, watch them vote/beg to be annexed by the US.
the idea was planted and now they're probably pissed they let the EU talk them into fake protests because deep down, you're living on a miserable rock thats below 0 most of the year and were promised a golden ticket to join the US so you know they're not so stupid they're not thinking about their own self interests.
So long 100k payday, McDonalds, medicaid and EBT cards.
watch trump cut the deal of the century sooner rather than later here!
This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 1/22/26 at 12:04 pm to Ailsa
Trump: "Can we have Greenland?"
NATO: "frick off"
Trump: "25% TARIFFS!!!"
NATO: "Lol k"
Trump: "Pretty please?"
NATO: "How about the same agreement we've had the last 70 years?"
Trump: "Done! No more tariffs"
MAGA: "Cry harder libs! That's the art of the deal!"
Posted on 1/22/26 at 12:05 pm to Ailsa
Posted on 1/22/26 at 12:06 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Trump once again pulls the same negotiating tactic and wins spectacularly because his opposition is unable to act logically and lets their emotions destroy their negotiation positioning
What did we win? Has Denmark or Greenland agreed to anything? I have as much authority over Greenland’s minerals as does the Secretary General of NATO.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 12:10 pm to Pragmatist2025
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However, the Golden Dome idea is useless bluster. Only one country has a supposed preemptive strike policy.
Should we just assume that every other country in the world, including China, is being 100% honest and open and that they will never change their policy?
The Golden Dome also helps defend against non-preemptive strikes. We should consider those also.
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If a missile is fired, there is no stopping the chain of events and certain mutual destruction that follows with any ‘color dome’.
You believe that no technology will ever stop a missile and that even if it did, we should let our citizens be obliterated because mutual destruction is sure to come? I can't say I agree with the idea of throwing our hands up and saying, "oh well, there's nothing we can do."
Posted on 1/22/26 at 12:25 pm to CAD703X
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So long 110k payday, McDonalds, medicaid and EBT cards.
To address your points in order.
110k is diddly shite in the far North. A one time payment and then they are thrown to the tender mercies of the US government? Day workers, the most unskilled laborers, make about 38 grand a year. The average salary is about the same as Alaska. They have as close to full employment as possible.
McDonalds has a hard time maintaining a restaurant in Tromsø, Norway. Which, despite being further to the North, has two things Nuuk, the capital of Greenland, does not. 4 times the population and roads connecting it to the rest of Europe. Greenland is not only an island, it is an island where icing issues often prevent cargo being unloaded. A perfect place for a McDonalds!
Denmark healthcare makes US medicaid seem like horse manure and it covers just about everything.
Food, housing, and much of everything else is already heavily subsidized by Denmark. EBT covers $6.50 a day. Daily groceries (the real basic stuff) runs $30 a day up there.
We would be taking away things they have that are much better than what we are offering a one day pay day that will not last long up there.
And, only 6% of Greenlanders want anything to do with us now. Before all this started Denmark, which lost more soldiers during the GWOT as a percentage of their population than we did, had the highest regard for the US in Europe. That is in single digits now.
Your plan requires people who now despise us to vote to join us while we offer the citizens tiddly winks.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 12:49 pm to Arksulli
great post comrade!
Posted on 1/22/26 at 12:50 pm to RollTide4547
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It's less environmentally damaging when it's done in china?
No, but they aren't squeamish about either silencing or eliminating their noisy environmentalists.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:20 am to TenWheelsForJesus
quote:Disagreements only mean things are seen from a different aspect and I respect that. My view is apart from seeking any nuclear proliferation treaty (which will never happen to any great afffrct) there really is nothing we can do about the outcome. Even with a significant leap forward in technology, the idea that 100’s of nuclear missiles could be stopped is a minute. The mantra for any country is ‘what is in our best interest’? A hot war is not in ANY countries’ best interest. Our defense budget is magnitudes larger than any country in the world. We have magnitudes more military bases than any country in the world. We are technologically on better footing in most areas than our adversaries. THAT is already our best defense and better than anyone else’s, and they know this. Annihilating one annihilates us all. We have been conditioned to think that they are somehow indifferent to this fact.
I can't say I agree with the idea of throwing our hands up and saying, "oh well, there's nothing we can do."
With that said, we will always be in adversarial position with Russia and China and are always in an economic war with both. All three want to be in an advantageous position but will NEVER be in all aspects. This does not have to be a zero sum game nor should it be. Diplomacy does not have to mean losing every battle but picking and choosing which ones are worth winning and which ones where everyone can win in some aspects. The ‘do exactly what we want or say’ position has never worked for any country ever. Completely destroying our adversaries economically would have the same horrible global impact as us being destroyed by them. We have been conditioned to believe that they are somehow indifferent to this fact (also). Replace economic with nuclear and the impact is not just horrible, but the end.
Our greatest problems and most devastating blows have not come from Russia and China. They are self-inflicted by the course on which we have set ourselves. We will end ourselves without them firing a single shot, and Greenland or a golden dome will be meaningless.
A greater focus on cyber-security, the continuation of defending our borders and ACTUAL responsible fiscal policy along with the accountability it requires might be our only hope. JMO
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:21 am to Ailsa
We’ve had that ability for years! Nothing new to see here…
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