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re: Trump can’t release the Epstein files because of a court order?

Posted on 11/14/25 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by Lighteningbolt
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 11/14/25 at 3:00 pm to
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Trump can’t release the Epstein files because of a court order?b
So per usual, Trump was once again talking out his arse when he said he would release them.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9746 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 3:10 pm to
The files are never going to be released because powerful people in both parties would be exposed. It’s just a political football at this point that will get thrown around every election cycle by the opposition.
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:58 am to
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Those documents weren't files? My guess is the epstein "files" were part of the grand jury "documents". The files would likely have been used as evidence in the grand jury.


No, they aren't. The Grand Jury documents are only the testimony of two people, a NYP cop and an FBI agent. The multiple judges who ruled against Trump's stunt made this clear.

“The information contained in the Epstein grand jury transcripts pales in comparison to the Epstein investigation information and materials in the hand of the Department of Justice,”

“The Government is a logical party to make comprehensive disclosure to the public of the Epstein files. By comparison, the instant grand jury motion appears to be a ‘diversion’ from the breath and scope of the Epstein files in the Government’s possession,”


Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:03 am to
Alter Mountain who released 20K worth of documents?
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:04 am to
Only grand jury material/transcripts is covered by the court order. Those materials are a small fraction of the Epstein files.The DOJ can release their entire file absent those documents today. It’s a total deflection to protect pedophiles and human traffickers.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:04 am to
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Trump can’t release the Epstein files because of a court order?

The admin selected one specific slice of files (related to a GJ that isn't really necessary considering we have the evidence from the trial in that matter) they knew would not be able to be released (because it's GJ evidence).

It's a small % of the total and not really a relevant one.

The admin can release the much larger % of files/evidence (which would even have overlap with the GJ evidence).
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 8:05 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:06 am to
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Those documents weren't files? My guess is the epstein "files" were part of the grand jury "documents". The files would likely have been used as evidence in the grand jury.


And that could be released, as long as it wasn't from the record of the GJ proceedings.

Most, if not all, of that stuff is already in the public because, you know, they did a trial of Maxwell that had 10-100x the evidence of the GJ.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10094 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:08 am to
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Trump can’t release the Epstein files because of a court order?


I ran this through the Jerry Clower Translator and got:

“Calhoun say he don’t want that ball”
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
157887 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:09 am to
I want a Jerry Clouer app that turns my prose into Jerry Clouer.

I can understand him just fine. I just can’t talk like him.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
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13905 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:13 am to
Bump
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
961 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:22 am to
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who released 20K worth of documents?


US House Oversight Committee dumped 20,000 from Jeffrey Epstein’s estate. The Courier compiled the 20,000 documents from Epstein’s estate into an easily searchable repository. You can search it here.

"What’s been released is only a small fraction of what the US Department of Justice has collected as part of its investigation into Epstein’s sex trafficking operation. The full “Epstein Files” have been kept from the public"

Interesting to note that the most common name in the Epstein estate database.......Trump.

This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 8:23 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167486 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:23 am to
when dadgum asked for a vote to release them the same day the democrats said NO.

because all of the sleazy dems and lawyers that are dems wanted to use their cherry-picked, slick redaction leaks to get Trump.

all of them came out via a rando FOIA request and showed JE was team democrat via the get Trump peach mints.

Massie looks like a jackass now with his "petition" to release what has been released.

Go search here for OMB
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 8:24 am
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:41 am to
You got heem Alter Mountain!
Posted by Cito2point0
Member since Aug 2024
197 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:44 am to
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The democrats don't want them coming out


Is that why every D signed the discharge petition while only 4 Rs signed it?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:45 am to
Gand jury testimony is protected under rules of criminal procedure.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476900 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:47 am to
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Gand jury testimony is protected under rules of criminal procedure.

Yes, but the ruse is the focus on GJ evidence, which is a nothingburger.

That's why the admin focused on this, to create this dishonest talking point.

Posted by TIGERVATO
Spring, TX.
Member since Jan 2008
1992 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:52 am to
Tim Burchett tried having Congress pass legislation to release all Epstein files this past week and Dems killed it again. Don't fall for the Dems bullshite on releasing the Epstein files. There are so many top DEMOCRATS involved in pedophilia that if they release the files there will be severe damage done to DC and Hollywood. BTW, I'm all for releasing all the files.
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
961 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 10:00 am to
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Don't fall for the Dems bullshite on releasing the Epstein files.


The vote to release the files is Tuesday. Do you think the Democrats will vote against the release?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90625 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:13 am to
Naw they already played games with it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:26 am to
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Trump can’t release the Epstein files because of a court order?
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