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re: Trump budget: 20% cut to NIH

Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:08 am to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:08 am to
Because it's disingenuous at best.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53964 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:10 am to
That is good news way too much money is wasted through these research grants.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61829 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:10 am to
I have a well-meaning friend who is a Registered Nurse. My wife and I adore her, but we don't see eye-to-eye, politically. She just posted on FB about these cuts:
quote:

This is devastating. I wish people could understand that our national security and the well-being of our nation is so very much more than borders and immigrants.


I don't quite think she gets it.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4425 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:10 am to
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When they move an worker from one cube to another they charge the government $2500. The work is being performed by people all ready employed by the government to do these tasks. This is not a bean counter costing function either because the moves are done as contract mods at additional expense. The area in which I work had 10 employees moved to another building while they did work on their cubicles and the contract was paid 25000 for the 10 employees being moved and then 25000 when they were moved back 4 days later. The real egregious part was the employees never actually moved to the other building because they couldn't do work in the other building due to their classified work and lack of access. Instead they were set up in a conference room inside the lab where they were. These things are not isolated. It is the way the government works.


Exactly. My former career was as a public school teacher. The amount of waste in public schools is unreal just in paper and ink alone. Start adding in unneeded employees and having 1 on 1 paras for certain students their entire school life and its get outrageous.
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3526 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:11 am to
To which your trypical big government idiot would say, "that's only $50,000 down the tube, it's a drop in the bucket". To which I would say, all those drops actually add up to a ton of real money!
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4425 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:13 am to
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To which your trypical big government idiot would say, "that's only $50,000 down the tube, it's a drop in the bucket". To which I would say, all those drops actually add up to a ton of real money!


When you could tax every person making over a million dollars at year at 100% and it still wouldn't be enough then you know we have a MAJOR spending problem.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105551 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:15 am to
So funding is provided to find cures by our tax dollars and we still get to pay high prices for that treatment. Awesomeness
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15090 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:18 am to
"The majority of medical discovery comes from the private sector. This thing called incentive and capitalism makes that happen."

That just isn't true. Most of the biggest breakthroughs happen with NIH funding. Not all, not saying all, but most.

Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:22 am to
Because you don't think that money from the NIH supports 350,000 jobs?



It perplexes me that everyone is suddenly cool with "big pharma." I thought yall hated big pharma and they are sitting on the cure for cancer. Take out all the public research dollars and I guess they can keep that cure for cancer in the closet and not worry about it. Also, if they are the ones doing all the research then don't expect drug prices to go down. It will be the opposite.

Then you'll lose a huge portion of research that benefits society but is not profitable. Private sector will never do it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124688 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:24 am to
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Now he is slashing Biomedical Research by 20%. Hopefully congress will block this
Agree.
The CDC OTOH could stand a little scrutiny.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53542 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:26 am to
Good

People are still unhealthy so they aren't doing a good job
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17530 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:33 am to
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Now he is slashing Biomedical Research by 20%. Hopefully congress will block this


If you actually watched the presser on the budget you would know this is a cut to eliminate waste. Mulkavey used the example of in one city, might've been D.C. even, there are 7 different buildings owned and operated by the NIH with overlapping, duplicated, functions. Eliminate 3 of the locations by consolidating and save almost the entire 20% right there.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:35 am to
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Good

People are still unhealthy so they aren't doing a good job

lol strong
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:43 am to
If eliminating 3 NIH buildings and not reducing the amount of money given to research grants equals 6 billion then that's great. Go for it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124688 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:00 pm to
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If you actually watched the presser on the budget you would know this is a cut to eliminate waste. Mulkavey used the example of in one city, might've been D.C. even, there are 7 different buildings owned and operated by the NIH with overlapping, duplicated, functions.
Whereas in the last administration different buildings owned and operated by the government, had overlapping duplicitous functions.
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:02 pm to
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oh NIH does vaccines? i thought he just posted here

Vaccines are fake!
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:05 pm to
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I don't quite think she gets it.


I don't think you get it.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:07 pm to
Here is the thing, if your agency is so important then you have a chance to present the case to congress. Trumps budget won't pass because the McCains won't allow it to. All this bellyaching does is reinforce just how bloated these Agencies really have become.

Drain the swamp
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68739 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:10 pm to
Funny you don't realize that there's easily 20% waste in all govt bureaucracies.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:15 pm to
Where does it say the 20% come off of research? Trim the fat.
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