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re: Trump backs Hegseth after report claims war secretary ordered no survivors in drug boat

Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25252 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:08 am to
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Dudes running drugs are terrorists?


Well, the cartels do operate by fear and murdering of politicians, police, journalists, and anyone else who speaks out against them. I'd say that falls under the umbrella of terrorism. Narco terrorism or whatever they want to call it.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8460 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:09 am to
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This has nothing to do with "Drugs"


and you do not know what it has to do with
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:11 am to
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and you do not know what it has to do with


100% Trump had an immigration pissing match with Maduro, and got his feelings hurt.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31843 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:12 am to
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This has nothing to do with "Drugs"


It really doesn’t. The cocaine on these boats probably isn’t even headed to the States.

This is a precursor to another war for oil.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:15 am to
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It really doesn’t. The cocaine on these boats probably isn’t even headed to the States.


The president of trinidad bragged at how low the supply was since we started this


Make Trinidad Great Again
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8118 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:21 am to
First, they came for the narco terrorist drug smugglers and I said nothing because I wasn't a drug smuggler.

Then they came for the survivors and I said "Make sure you get all the survivors"
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23021 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:26 am to
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This is ridiculous. Mark Kelly is such a partisan hack, the democrats have no ideas, so they attack.


They are gonna bring people up on charges.
Posted by RAB
Member since Aug 2019
1629 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:39 am to
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Dudes running drugs are terrorists?


We should have treated them as such a long time ago. Their actions have killed far more American citizens than bin Laden could have ever imagined.

It is remarkable that Democrats are now at the point of defending drug cartels. Amazing! These people are hopelessly out of touch.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46493 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:42 am to
how did I do that? And who gives a frick what the drug is?

Talk about pivot
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2567 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:44 am to
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So the new Dem filth initiative with terrorist groups is to scare them and let them live?
I don’t know about that, but the Constitutional response to criminals is to arrest, indict, prosecute, and imprison them, rather than engaging in extrajudicial killings.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100870 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:44 am to
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Those boats arent coming here.


The product on them is coming here. They get unloaded and hidden in planes, private vessels, packages, etc in the Caribbean at which point it becomes impossible to track and catch it all. The only way to stop it is to destroy those boats that we know are loaded with drugs.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46493 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:45 am to
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The cocaine on these boats probably isn’t even headed to the States.


This is just stupid. Of course it is. We are the #1 consumer of these narcotics globally. Not to deny your point about oil being a motivating factor - I'm sure it is. But I'm also not stupid enough to suggest that we are incapable of caring about two things at the same time. That's Roger's role.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:47 am to
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The product on them is coming here


Most cocaine is going to trinidad and some goes to Europe.

Trumps using "Fentanyl" to attack cocaine shipments to other countries. Thats what MAGA has become.

quote:

Drug boats from Venezuela are mainly moving cocaine to Europe — not fentanyl to the U.S., experts say


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But drug cartels operating vessels in the Caribbean, where roughly 50% of the airstrikes have taken place, are mainly moving cocaine from South America to Europe — not to the United States, according to current and former U.S. law enforcement and military officials as well as narcotics experts. And the deadliest drug of all, fentanyl, is almost exclusively smuggled over land from Mexico, the officials and experts say.


LINK

Y'all are way too easily duped by awful propaganda.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31843 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 10:52 am to
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But drug cartels operating vessels in the Caribbean, where roughly 50% of the airstrikes have taken place, are mainly moving cocaine from South America to Europe — not to the United States, according to current and former U.S. law enforcement and military officials as well as narcotics experts. And the deadliest drug of all, fentanyl, is almost exclusively smuggled over land from Mexico, the officials and experts say.

The realities of the drug trade in Latin America call into question part of the administration’s stated rationale for its unprecedented military campaign against suspected narcotics smuggling boats, and whether it will have any significant effect on the supply of narcotics in the United States, according to the officials and experts.

“Fentanyl is not coming out of Venezuela. Fentanyl comes from Mexico,” said Christopher Hernandez-Roy, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank in Washington. “What’s coming out of Venezuela is cocaine.”

And most of that cocaine is no longer headed to the U.S., according to Hernandez-Roy, who co-authored a 2023 report on the subject.

The cocaine market in Europe has “exploded” in recent years, he said, because it’s “more lucrative and there’s less of a chance, at least at some levels of the supply chain, of facing prison time.”

A U.S. official with expertise on counternarcotics efforts offered a similar assessment, saying cocaine accounts for about 90% of the drugs coming from Venezuela and is “almost all destined for Europe.”


LINK

You’ve fallen for the shitty pretext.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46493 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:08 am to
LOL. The US consumes MORE cocaine (28% globally - more than the entire European continent) and MORE Fentanyl than any other single nation on Earth. We had more fentanyl deaths in recent years that the entire rest of the world COMBINED. These drugs are coming from South America. Its not even remotely disputed. Mexico is the number 1 source of Fentanyl in the US and Colombia is cultivating 65% of the worlds cocaine supply.

The fact that some of those narcotics are also being trafficked to Europe and other markets means absolutely fricking nothing in terms of our desire to stem the illegal drug trade to the US. These short-sighted and poorly though out dem talking points don't work here.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35715 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:10 am to
It's one person on Team Sedition that claims something was said, but it cannot be verified or disproven.

But it makes Team Tangerine look bad, so of course they believe it and will not question it. Does not matter what is truth. So long as it makes Orange look bad, it's a good thing. Period.

And even if Pete did say "kill 'em all", I'm 100% down with that. They're narco-terrorists and enemies to a free America, being summarily put down with extreme prejudice while actively doing their part to destroy America. The leader down in Trinidad has the right approach when she says "Kill them all. We approve, and they're shark food as far as we're concerned". Of course that's paraphrased, but essentially what she publicly spoke.

Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16200 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:10 am to
So this is Mark Kelly's fault? Lol
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:12 am to
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LOL. The US consumes MORE cocaine (28% globally - more than the entire European continent) and MORE Fentanyl than any other single nation on Earth.


Which is why you cant win the drug war, and its idiotic to pretend you can.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16200 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:21 am to
As Glenn Frey correctly says in his song Smugglers Blues,
"They say they're going to stop it, but it doesn't go away."
"You ask any DEA man he'll tell you there is nothing we can do, from the office of the President, right down to me and you."
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 11:27 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
163000 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:41 am to
The major BRICS meeting was in Havana Cuba. China indeed slides in phentanyl, cocaine via Canada, now our southern border is closed.

Are you privy to the classified information of the election, drug, arms running mechanics? How are they getting their drugs in via China now?

The last BRICS pow wow was in Rio. They are gunning against NATO.

So cut the crap of your Dubya war on drugs talk. There is a lot more to this than your brain imagines--- to diss Trump every which way but loose with your TDS.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 11:43 am
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