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re: Trump Announces Arrests For Reflecting Pool Vandalism

Posted on 6/24/26 at 12:16 am to
Posted by geauxtigers
Biloxi Mississippi
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 12:16 am to
eabod Low-tboy
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Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 12:33 am to
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Also no one is mentioning. Was it smart to drive the motorcade on the surface before it cured? What's a president's suburban weigh? 20,000lbs?
I bet that wasn't great for the surface.


The beast produces roughly 70psi across its contact patch, maybe more on the front, but I can't find any weight distribution specs. The worst case scenario is the vehicle stopped, the front wheels being turned, and both the coating and tires being hot. Even when there should be no damage to the properly adhered coating.

There is about a 99% chance the coating did not adhere properly. In a normal world this would be on the contractor. I have a feeling they are being given a gift of another roughly $20 million contract based on people touching or trying to take some of the peeling coating.
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
12904 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 6:05 am to
They got EM! Lol who gives a frick about this stupid arse story
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:25 am to
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Trump Announces Arrests For Reflecting Pool Vandalism


How about arresting the contractor who completed the work and the idiot who approved the contract to an unqualified vendor?
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5147 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:43 am to
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There is about a 99% chance the coating did not adhere properly


I’d bet money they exceeded the maximum recoat window, which for this coating was 36 hours however, it is a wide open basin with the sun baking so it is highly probable that the contractor applied the coating within spec but the recoat window shortened due to ambient conditions.

Or the contractor simply f’d up
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6894 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:00 am to
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If the National Park laws get enforced it would be great. A 20 year sentence would stop these crimes. Don’t you agree?

Recently over 1000 people were pardoned for breaking into the Capitol when it was closed.

It was a good idea by Trump. In business Trump would sue and not pay the contractor I’ve not heard of this happening. It looks bad for Trump when one of the no bid contracts was given to a donor that has a residence at Mar-a-Lago. It looks worse when that contractor has been convicted of bribing a congressman.

This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 8:15 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:15 am to
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I’d bet money they exceeded the maximum recoat window, which for this coating was 36 hours however, it is a wide open basin with the sun baking so it is highly probable that the contractor applied the coating within spec but the recoat window shortened due to ambient conditions.



That is an interesting point. I had assumed the failure was between the concrete and coating, but it is possible it was a failure between layers of coating. If the lower layer is allowed to cure too much prior to recoatong then the subsequent layer can not form a chemical bond, only a mechanical bond. The first layer is likely too smooth to form a proper mechanical bond, and if the subsequent layer(s) are applied after too much cure, that could sheet off. If we could see the bottom of the pool where this is occurring you could easily see a layer debonding because the lower layer would still be bonded to the concrete, assuming that bond didn't fail also.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23286 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:19 am to
Fwiw, the contractor has already agreed to do the work under warranty:

quote:

“These areas are a very small part of the massive 7 acre project, and do not indicate a failure of the liner,” the company wrote. “These repairs can not be made until the pool is drained. As soon as its feasible for the Park, the pool will be drained and AIC will be back to make those needed repairs as part of the warranty.”


They're probably wishing this whole thing would quiet down. Having your company be the poster child for shoddy government contract work can't be good for business.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5147 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:29 am to
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That is an interesting point. I had assumed the failure was between the concrete and coating, but it is possible it was a failure between layers of coating. If the lower layer is allowed to cure too much prior to recoatong then the subsequent layer can not form a chemical bond, only a mechanical bond. The first layer is likely too smooth to form a proper mechanical bond, and if the subsequent layer(s) are applied after too much cure, that could sheet off. If we could see the bottom of the pool where this is occurring you could easily see a layer debonding because the lower layer would still be bonded to the concrete, assuming that bond didn't fail also.


Delamination between the substrate and coating would be more beneficial to the contractor, as there could be a lot more factors that that contractor could not foresee, specifically hydrostatic pressure, substrate contamination, etc.

I know nothing about the pre-existing condition of the pool but a lot of concrete coating applications are done at night, when the concrete is in a cooling cycle and not offgassing.

But if the coating has a “walking on eggshells” feel, the contractor missed the recoat window - period. Now if the delaminated coating goes down to the substrate but is “soft or gooey” that would suggest improper mixing.

There are a myriad of possibilities here, but one thing is sure, if it is a coating failure, it is almost always contractor error.

But we will not know anything until the pool is drained and inspected.

This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 8:31 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5766 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 9:00 am to
Tarp covered fences around the pool. Why?



EDIT: This image is probably a fake.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 9:16 am
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
78032 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 9:07 am to
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Out of all the problems we have in this country this damn reflecting pool is the hill they want to die on. Totally insane!!!


It's all they have left. Trump and MAGA have kicked their asses at every turn and people are getting tired of their shite.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5147 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 9:11 am to
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Tarp covered fences around the pool. Why?


Are the tarps just around the perimeter or are they covering sections of the pool?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5766 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 9:14 am to
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Are the tarps just around the perimeter or are they covering sections of the pool?


Looks like the fence is real but the tarp is fake - from what I'm seeing. X strikes again.
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8760 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 9:53 am to
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TBoy


Your actions/words make it appear that you do not like this country.
Why are you still here? Can you not afford to leave? Are you over-extended financially? Do you even work? Are you afraid of change? Are you tired of being a failure?
shite boy, I cannot understand why you're still here since you're so miserable.
Posted by FireawayLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2023
1958 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 10:02 am to
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. The National Guard guarding the pool and portable security cameras are all part of a show to convince people that there was actually vandalism.


Well of course if ”parts” of it just “came up” then more pieces will just come up on its own in the next fews days. Wouldn’t you agree?? So by the end of the week we shall see if the lining is a Trump failure or the National guard magically became liner experts. Right?? Right?? So let’s bookmark this so I can laugh in you and the other libtards faces when it’s just another failed “oh we got him this time”.
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
2797 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 10:11 am to
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2701 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 10:39 am to
The vandals were the ones that drove a certain motorcade over it when it was drained.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4485 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 11:40 am to
I love this subject because it's just so clear how many people are willing to eat up whatever Trump shits out.

They biffed it completely. This thread explains what happened. Guy predicted it to a T.

LINK

Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
78032 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 12:25 pm to
Go root for algae, bitch.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30753 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:08 pm to
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Well of course if ”parts” of it just “came up” then more pieces will just come up on its own in the next fews days. Wouldn’t you agree??


That assumes a lot of things. It is possible all the failures have already occurred (infant mortality), and you have no more failures. It is also possible that some or a lot more will fail in any given time frame. Nobody on Earth even knows the exact extent of the current amount of failed coating and won't until it is drained and inspected. The one thing that is a fact is that nobody got down there and pulled up sheets of properly bonded coating. That isn't to say there were not people attempting to vandalize the pool, but they couldn't pull sheets of it up by hand if it was properly bonded. Pulling or yanking on a piece that was already up is mens rea for the crime IMO, even though in reality they could not actually cause damage, but just exposing an already existing failure.
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