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re: Trump & Iran
Posted on 5/4/26 at 9:04 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Posted on 5/4/26 at 9:04 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Of course you don't but I'm sure the Trump administration does.
I’d prefer they enact America First policy instead of play world building games in the sandbox on the taxpayer tab.
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 9:14 pm to Jef75
I think Trump has been trying to force a peace deal on them that they never wanted in the first place.
Trump has been throwing offer after offer on these people in hopes that they will take it because it’s by far the easiest and cleanest way to get our hands on the nuke material. It’s going to be extremely hard to lay our hands on that stuff and remove it under combat conditions. One has to wonder also exactly how much more damage can that site take before radiation starts leaking out into the area and turning the whole area around it into a nuclear wasteland for the next century or more. It’s a complex problem.
The best way to handle it from this point forward is to just take out this regime and get a Government in charge that is friendly to the U.S. that would allow us to remove it later. That is probably the best and safest option at this point.
Trump has been throwing offer after offer on these people in hopes that they will take it because it’s by far the easiest and cleanest way to get our hands on the nuke material. It’s going to be extremely hard to lay our hands on that stuff and remove it under combat conditions. One has to wonder also exactly how much more damage can that site take before radiation starts leaking out into the area and turning the whole area around it into a nuclear wasteland for the next century or more. It’s a complex problem.
The best way to handle it from this point forward is to just take out this regime and get a Government in charge that is friendly to the U.S. that would allow us to remove it later. That is probably the best and safest option at this point.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 9:25 pm to DyeHardDylan
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DyeHardDylan
You’re an emotionally hysterical leftist, the things that you post here are clearly from your deranged mind that is stuck in theatre as if it’s real life. Typical leftist nut.
You don’t know a fricking thing about what’s going on currently with foreign policy so stop pretending that you do.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 9:29 pm to Rekrul
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You don’t know a fricking thing about what’s going on currently with foreign policy so stop pretending that you do.
Neither do any of us.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 9:33 pm to DyeHardDylan
You forgot to start your post with
I’m a 3x Trump voter but……
I’m a 3x Trump voter but……
Posted on 5/4/26 at 9:38 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Neither do any of us.
Correct, but I’m not on here making posts acting like I know what’s going on in this situation. The clown I was responding to (and others) act like they know everything up to the minute about the inner workings of our military as well as our foreign policy with allies.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 9:43 pm to LegendInMyMind
You honestly think we have reached the maximum damage our military can inflict? That any further destruction would be pointless? Please. It has been surgical, for the most part. Tokyo, Dresden, Hamburg, this ain't that. So let's not pretend we shot our shot and failed.
This is controlled pressure, with way more throttle to go. We're looking for the tipping point, the civilian casualty over embedded hardliner cost to benefit ratio. I doubt over half the population is down with suicide for the sake of the guys who just executed thousands.
This is controlled pressure, with way more throttle to go. We're looking for the tipping point, the civilian casualty over embedded hardliner cost to benefit ratio. I doubt over half the population is down with suicide for the sake of the guys who just executed thousands.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 10:47 pm to Jef75
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We’ve already spent $25B on this
Not sure you understand how budgets work, thqt money would have been spent regardless.
And Trump has done what he said - this operation ended this week. Just have some loose ends to fix. This is have been America’s most successful military campaign in our history. If we had a media and the propagandists on Twitter that didn’t hate Trump the country would how great this has gone for the us. Not to mention that the world is buying oil from us now instead of Iran.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 11:27 pm to DyeHardDylan
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Iran and in Israel are in no hurry to end this, and Trump is desperately exploring all exit options because Bibi played him into bearing the brunt of the war and there is zero appetite in this country for another long term Middle East conflict.
It’s amazing how dumb people are on here.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:58 am to CharlesUFarley
“I would make the next phase the eradication of the IRGC”
That’s easier said than done.The population doesn’t have weapons to fight with.Only chance I see is if the regular army sides with the citizens and goes to war against the IRGC.
That’s easier said than done.The population doesn’t have weapons to fight with.Only chance I see is if the regular army sides with the citizens and goes to war against the IRGC.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 2:29 am to Jef75
This is a wonderful example of how I find it funny when people living in 2026 pass judgement on those who lived in 1860.
The vast majority of Americans have zero idea at how committed these nut jobs in Iran are. If need be, they’ll simply go live in caves, wipe their asses with their hands and eat bugs.
They don’t give a shite about Trumps threats
The vast majority of Americans have zero idea at how committed these nut jobs in Iran are. If need be, they’ll simply go live in caves, wipe their asses with their hands and eat bugs.
They don’t give a shite about Trumps threats
Posted on 5/5/26 at 4:50 am to Jef75
Save tens of thousands of lives OR pay $12 more a tank to fill up. Panicans and liberals need their Starbucks money.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 4:56 am to Indefatigable
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I don’t give a shite what happens to the Iranian people. Or the Lebanese, or Gazans, or Israeli’s for that matter.
Yes you do. Come on. You don’t want tens of thousands of innocent people, including children, to die.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 5:01 am to CharlesUFarley
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I hope that the military has a plan for another round of kinetic operations that will change some thinking over there.
The plan has got to have two main components. One is to control the Strait. Hopefully we have used the cease fire to develop tactics to control their speedboats. Their missiles and drones will be a problem at first, but it will quickly abate. With the Strait opened, the world can bypass Iran and let it wither.
The second component is to arm the people of Iran and supply them with close aerial support - drones mostly. Then let nature take its course.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 5:09 am to Jef75
At what point do we stop talking about the strait of Hormuz and get their nuclear material we are so terrified of that we started this war over?
Posted on 5/5/26 at 5:13 am to Indefatigable
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Iran is ten times the challenge Iraq was, and maybe 1,000 times that of Afghanistan. Both failed miserably.
What? We easily conquered both. The only metric by which we can be said to have failed is American popular opinion.
In Iraq we successfully implemented regime change. Notice that Iraq today is no longer a threat to the Middle East oilfields as they were when Saddam ruled. Also, while not up to western standards, Iraq is a parliamentary government today. We did not fail in Iraq; we succeeded. Americans just don’t think it was worth the cost. We did fail at the secondary goal of turning Iraq into a western style democracy, but we are not trying to do that in Iran.
The goal in Afghanistan was to remove the hidey holes and training camps of Al Qaeda. We succeeded. We were never going to stay there forever - just long enough to let this era of Islamic terrorism pass. The ultimate metric by which the Afghanistan war should be judged is how safe is our homeland.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 5:18 am to Penrod
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The ultimate metric by which the Afghanistan war should be judged is how safe is our homeland.
How many people died from terrorism in the US other than 9/11?
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More than 3,200 Americans were killed in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil from 9/11/2001 through 2016, with 2,902 of those deaths occurring during the September 11 attacks themselves. Analysis shows 549 additional Americans died in terrorist attacks from 2002 to 2019, primarily due to rising domestic extremism
This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 5:20 am
Posted on 5/5/26 at 5:32 am to Jef75
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give the Iranians time to sort out a surrender
I think it’s more that there is no one clearly in charge and so one part agrees to the surrender in one part doesn’t. He’s trying to give them time to work out the internal dynamics of who makes decisions.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 5:53 am to hubertcumberdale
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More than 3,200 Americans were killed in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil from 9/11/2001 through 2016, with 2,902 of those deaths occurring during the September 11 attacks themselves. Analysis shows 549 additional Americans died in terrorist attacks from 2002 to 2019, primarily due to rising domestic extremism
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How many people died from terrorism in the US other than 9/11?
I’m uncertain of the point you are making here. It looks to me like there were almost zero foreign terrorist attacks during that period other than 9/11. That comports with my opinion. So the War on Terror (an abomination of a name) was a success. This seems to support my argument stated in the previous post.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 5:59 am to Penrod
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I’m uncertain of the point you are making here. It looks to me like there were almost zero foreign terrorist attacks during that period other than 9/11. That comports with my opinion. So the War on Terror (an abomination of a name) was a success. This seems to support my argument stated in the previous post.
3,000 Americans die per year from distracted driving, when are we going to focus on that?
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