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re: Trump admin to seize wages of student loan borrowers in default starting next month

Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65865 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:52 pm to
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It's one of the most egregious things I've ever read about. Up and to include the school shooting down in Texas where the chief of police ordered his officers to set up a perimeter around the building and not enter while the gunman continued his rampage unimpeded for like an hour.

Everyone involved should fry.


No disagreement here. It's pretty awful.
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
4198 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:53 pm to
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Are we going to allow them to be discharged in bankruptcy then?
You already can discharge student loans in bankruptcy. Brunner v. New York
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
Member since Jan 2005
45664 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:55 pm to
So the options from the two parties are:

1. Seize wages from those who took out the loans to pay them.

Or

2. Seize wages from those who did not take out these loans (taxpayers) to pay them.

Yeah, I prefer option 1
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11993 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:58 pm to
Again, there is a third option that is in between 1 and 2.

Garnish the wages of people simply stealing from the government, no questions asked. Give people who are struggling to make ends meet the option of paying off their loans through volunteer work for the government. If they refuse, garnish their wages.

The government would end up making more money going the in between route.

False dichotomy, for our philosophy majors.
This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 2:59 pm
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 3:10 pm to
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Yeah, that’s how you lose the midterms real fast.




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1,000 defaulted student loan borrowers


Look out, 1,000 borrowers, that probably don't even vote, are gonna swing the election!
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
72490 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 3:15 pm to
Higher ed is the biggest indoctrination factory of Marxism while also the largest contributor to institutional debt slavism with its insane and crippling tuition costs and fees. So strange how universities don't seem to discuss this with their impressionable young students.

But muh post-capitalism.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16722 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 3:17 pm to
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Yeah, that’s how you lose the midterms real fast.


If we have that many people who are freeloaders who borrow money and never pay it back this country is cook anyway.

Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11993 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 3:18 pm to
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Higher ed is the biggest indoctrination factory of Marxism while also the largest contributor to institutional debt slavism with its insane and crippling tuition costs and fees. So strange how universities don't seem to discuss this with their impressionable young students.


Exactly. We are coming after their endowments.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
72490 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 3:25 pm to
It's insanity. It's like cutting an arm off of a student and then radicalizing the student to rage against two-armed people.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20008 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 3:58 pm to
The students that are currently unemployed and are going to face repercussions should be guaranteed employment within the government.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
9266 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 4:06 pm to
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Yeah, that’s how you lose the midterms real fast.


I would think enough rational people see this as very reasonable. 5 million people freeloading and not being responsible. If this is the reason the Rs lose then this county is beyond repair anyway.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4134 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 4:57 pm to
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Didn't realize what they were getting into and did borrow enough that it was crippling. It's a failure by their parents.


So at what age are people mature enough to understand that loans need to be paid back?

Whatever it is, if not 18, should become the age to vote. If you're too stupid to understand a loan, you're too stupid to vote.

Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11993 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 4:58 pm to
These kids aren't good enough to buy a drink at a bar...
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4134 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 4:58 pm to
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I also proposed giving poorer people the opportunity to pay down their debts in other ways such as volunteering time to DOGE.


Federal jobs and the military will pay off student debt. Do you live under a rock?
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
2183 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 5:03 pm to
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The handouts are going bye bye.


We do handouts all the time. People are only mad about certain handouts. We had better pay attention to young people. They feel that they are getting to the short end of many sticks. Kids on both sides of the political spectrum have similar views on financial/affordability issues. All they need is a politician smart enough to unify them and avoid social issues.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8218 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

So the options from the two parties are:

1. Seize wages from those who took out the loans to pay them.

Or 2. Seize wages from those who did not take out these loans (taxpayers) to pay them.

Yeah, I prefer option 1

We need to add an option 3…Get the government out of the student loan business.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
10799 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 5:59 pm to
If you sign a written loan agreement, the borrower is bound by the terms they voluntarily entered into. Period.

I’ve had to payback every loan I’ve ever signed, including student loans.

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13536 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:02 pm to
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My point was spend a year eating without them, you will realize how important they are to your survival. People that complain about truckers, spend a year not buying things that were shipped on a truck, you're realize how important they are to your survival. If you want to defund the police, spend a year in democrat run cesspool and you'll see how important the police are to your survival.


So they are all above criticism?

Not sure that's how that works.
This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 6:04 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13536 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:04 pm to
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We need to add an option 3…Get the government out of the student loan business.


That one thing is not like the others.

It's the thing that needs to happen in order to stop more of this.

But it won't deal with the consequences of what's already happened. It's not a solution for that.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63080 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:14 pm to
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Are we going to allow them to be discharged in bankruptcy then?


Of course not.
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