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re: True or False: The World Was Better Before the Internet.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:42 am to Metaloctopus
Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:42 am to Metaloctopus
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we can learn a lot in one place, but how much disinformation is on the internet, and unless we're willing to become investigators, we're still kind of stuck with having to go to the library to find credible sources, just to make sure what we read on the internet wasn't made up.
you do know that a lot of things said in history books aren't the way things actually happened or they left many important things out to frame the govt point of view
Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:42 am to arktiger28
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Probably true. But given the choice I wouldn’t want to give it up. Which is kind of strange when I think about it.
That’s what we call an addiction baw
Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:44 am to Mike da Tigah
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You know it was fully functioning at one point, but now it’s a hot mess
Please enlighten us to when this was
Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:45 am to nateslu1
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The fact that people can openly state this with no moral conviction behind a keyboard and an anonymous profile is one of the reasons the internet has been our downfall.
Would you announce this to anyone in public?
As a blessed Xennial, I have to say you either weren't there or don't remember life pre-internet. Yeah it was harder to get, but these conversations weren't rare.
Redman referencing his porn collection on MTV Cribs (2001, colourized)
Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:46 am to Midtiger farm
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Please enlighten us to when this was
Post WW2 in the 50’s/60’s to be exact when society basically told the chief mechanical engineer to take a hike.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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these conversations weren't rare
Yeah but this isn't MTV and I didn't reply to Redman.
Again, not being judgemental because I have been guilty of it too. Just saying that things become socially acceptable through desensitization. The pattern is undeniable.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:59 am to Midtiger farm
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you do know that a lot of things said in history books aren't the way things actually happened or they left many important things out to frame the govt point of view
That's why I said "credible sources". There is a great deal of revisionist history. That's why you need to know what you're looking for.
People who are telling the truth, can cite where they get information, and provide evidence for their claims.
Others just give their version of events, and don't corroborate anything.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:04 am to ezride25
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The World Was Better Before the Internet.
I'd say so but it was better before we had instant access to everything. Waiting on things made you appreciate them.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:05 am to ezride25
True.
Smart phones more than any one thing IMHO.
Smart phones more than any one thing IMHO.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:06 am to ezride25
The world was great until social media. Things were fantastic in the late 90s and early 00s. Social media was the poison pill.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:08 am to ezride25
I often wonder if maybe the world was completely fricked up before and we just didn't know about it.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:12 am to ezride25
It’s like Eve’s apple.
A blessing and a curse
A blessing and a curse
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:14 am to ezride25
The internet was fine in the 90s. The world was better before muslims flew 767s into the World Trade Center.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:16 am to ezride25
Nature Deficit Disorder was caused by the Internet. There is a cure and it is called less Internet.
Imagine yourself giving up the Internet for a complete 24 hour period on every 7th day or 96 hour period after every 28 days or 504 hours every 84 days. We could go on and on but once every 7 days is something I could definitely do.
You do you.
Imagine yourself giving up the Internet for a complete 24 hour period on every 7th day or 96 hour period after every 28 days or 504 hours every 84 days. We could go on and on but once every 7 days is something I could definitely do.
You do you.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:18 am to ezride25
The internet is the antichrist...
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:22 am to ezride25
No, the world was better before social media. There is a difference.
That we have taken a DARPA surveillance model and weaponized it to counter the deep state propaganda apparatus that had been in place for half a century is a modern miracle and books will be written about the digital judo that was utilized to throw the opponents of freedom off balance.
That we have taken a DARPA surveillance model and weaponized it to counter the deep state propaganda apparatus that had been in place for half a century is a modern miracle and books will be written about the digital judo that was utilized to throw the opponents of freedom off balance.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:23 am to Nutriaitch
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I often wonder if maybe the world was completely fricked up before and we just didn't know about it.
There's a great degree of this that is true. We owe the ghosts of Richard Nixon & Joseph McCarthy gigantic apologies, for one.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:26 am to nateslu1
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Again, not being judgemental because I have been guilty of it too. Just saying that things become socially acceptable through desensitization
That's happened decades prior to the internet.
Ever hear of Deep Throat? That was a legit porno that was a huge mainstream success...in 1972. It started a wave of pornos becoming mainstream and being shown in normal theaters.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:27 am to ezride25
I think people having unlimited and unfettered access to to the internet is a bigger problem
In other words, I think this world would be a better place if 80% of the people living in it weren’t ADDICTED to their phones. It’s gotten to an absurd level. Even in social settings, the majority of people would rather be face first in their phone, scrolling. I fricking hate it
In other words, I think this world would be a better place if 80% of the people living in it weren’t ADDICTED to their phones. It’s gotten to an absurd level. Even in social settings, the majority of people would rather be face first in their phone, scrolling. I fricking hate it
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:30 am to Metaloctopus
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But the question was not about whether the internet should have been controlled. The question was if the world was better before the internet.
Let’s talk about the impact of the controlled propaganda environment we lived in prior to the internet era to put the two in contrast.
The US was driven to war how many times by false or manipulated stories?
-Spanish American War “remember the Maine!”
-WW1 “Lusitania”, “Zimmerman telegram”
-Vietnam “Gulf of Tonkin”
-Iraq 9/11 “weapons of mass destruction”
With the internet available to challenge those narratives do any of those wars happen? I say likely not just as online pushback changed potential involvement in Ukraine and recently Iran.
Then go into economics and politics:
-William Jennings Bryan: crushed by the east coast interests in the media for pushing early populism and an alternative economic approach
-Fed: Wilson never gets away with ushering in the Fed with full awareness via the internet of what they were doing
-JFK: the cia basically tried to start WW3 to take back Cuba, then killed JFK for stopping them and installed a puppet. Never happens if people in Des Moines, Iowa can hear what’s going on from someone other than Walter Conkrite and the mockingbird media
I can go on and on, but in effect most of our non existential wars (WW2 and Civil War excluded) are avoided or minimized and generations of Americans are better off economically and politically if the current level of internet era scrutiny is applied to past events.
As to our current level of discourse or discord, I don’t think that’s a pure reflection of just a divided population.
I think we are being set to odds with each other by global interests for their own benefit in what amounts to a domestic color revolution to avoid the rise of populism as the globalists were about to consolidate power.
Maybe some here agree and some won’t with that take, but from my perspective the online polarity is manufactured to a large degree so I simply don’t agree with blaming the internet for that any more than I would blaming a bus for being driven through a crowd or a gun for being used in a crime.
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