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re: True or False: The World Was Better Before the Internet.

Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:42 am to
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:42 am to
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we can learn a lot in one place, but how much disinformation is on the internet, and unless we're willing to become investigators, we're still kind of stuck with having to go to the library to find credible sources, just to make sure what we read on the internet wasn't made up.


you do know that a lot of things said in history books aren't the way things actually happened or they left many important things out to frame the govt point of view
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:42 am to
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Probably true. But given the choice I wouldn’t want to give it up. Which is kind of strange when I think about it.


That’s what we call an addiction baw
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:44 am to
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You know it was fully functioning at one point, but now it’s a hot mess


Please enlighten us to when this was
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:45 am to
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The fact that people can openly state this with no moral conviction behind a keyboard and an anonymous profile is one of the reasons the internet has been our downfall.

Would you announce this to anyone in public?


As a blessed Xennial, I have to say you either weren't there or don't remember life pre-internet. Yeah it was harder to get, but these conversations weren't rare.



Redman referencing his porn collection on MTV Cribs (2001, colourized)
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:46 am to
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Please enlighten us to when this was


Post WW2 in the 50’s/60’s to be exact when society basically told the chief mechanical engineer to take a hike.


Posted by nateslu1
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:52 am to
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these conversations weren't rare


Yeah but this isn't MTV and I didn't reply to Redman.

Again, not being judgemental because I have been guilty of it too. Just saying that things become socially acceptable through desensitization. The pattern is undeniable.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:59 am to
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you do know that a lot of things said in history books aren't the way things actually happened or they left many important things out to frame the govt point of view


That's why I said "credible sources". There is a great deal of revisionist history. That's why you need to know what you're looking for.

People who are telling the truth, can cite where they get information, and provide evidence for their claims.

Others just give their version of events, and don't corroborate anything.

Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19274 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:04 am to
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The World Was Better Before the Internet.

I'd say so but it was better before we had instant access to everything. Waiting on things made you appreciate them.
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:05 am to
True.

Smart phones more than any one thing IMHO.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:06 am to
The world was great until social media. Things were fantastic in the late 90s and early 00s. Social media was the poison pill.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:08 am to
I often wonder if maybe the world was completely fricked up before and we just didn't know about it.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16946 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:12 am to
It’s like Eve’s apple.

A blessing and a curse
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:14 am to
The internet was fine in the 90s. The world was better before muslims flew 767s into the World Trade Center.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17250 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:16 am to
Nature Deficit Disorder was caused by the Internet. There is a cure and it is called less Internet.

Imagine yourself giving up the Internet for a complete 24 hour period on every 7th day or 96 hour period after every 28 days or 504 hours every 84 days. We could go on and on but once every 7 days is something I could definitely do.

You do you.
Posted by Portballs
Member since Jun 2025
201 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:18 am to
The internet is the antichrist...
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:22 am to
No, the world was better before social media. There is a difference.

That we have taken a DARPA surveillance model and weaponized it to counter the deep state propaganda apparatus that had been in place for half a century is a modern miracle and books will be written about the digital judo that was utilized to throw the opponents of freedom off balance.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74750 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:23 am to
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I often wonder if maybe the world was completely fricked up before and we just didn't know about it.

There's a great degree of this that is true. We owe the ghosts of Richard Nixon & Joseph McCarthy gigantic apologies, for one.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464952 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:26 am to
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Again, not being judgemental because I have been guilty of it too. Just saying that things become socially acceptable through desensitization


That's happened decades prior to the internet.

Ever hear of Deep Throat? That was a legit porno that was a huge mainstream success...in 1972. It started a wave of pornos becoming mainstream and being shown in normal theaters.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13401 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:27 am to
I think people having unlimited and unfettered access to to the internet is a bigger problem

In other words, I think this world would be a better place if 80% of the people living in it weren’t ADDICTED to their phones. It’s gotten to an absurd level. Even in social settings, the majority of people would rather be face first in their phone, scrolling. I fricking hate it
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20009 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:30 am to
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But the question was not about whether the internet should have been controlled. The question was if the world was better before the internet.

Let’s talk about the impact of the controlled propaganda environment we lived in prior to the internet era to put the two in contrast.

The US was driven to war how many times by false or manipulated stories?
-Spanish American War “remember the Maine!”
-WW1 “Lusitania”, “Zimmerman telegram”
-Vietnam “Gulf of Tonkin”
-Iraq 9/11 “weapons of mass destruction”

With the internet available to challenge those narratives do any of those wars happen? I say likely not just as online pushback changed potential involvement in Ukraine and recently Iran.

Then go into economics and politics:
-William Jennings Bryan: crushed by the east coast interests in the media for pushing early populism and an alternative economic approach
-Fed: Wilson never gets away with ushering in the Fed with full awareness via the internet of what they were doing
-JFK: the cia basically tried to start WW3 to take back Cuba, then killed JFK for stopping them and installed a puppet. Never happens if people in Des Moines, Iowa can hear what’s going on from someone other than Walter Conkrite and the mockingbird media

I can go on and on, but in effect most of our non existential wars (WW2 and Civil War excluded) are avoided or minimized and generations of Americans are better off economically and politically if the current level of internet era scrutiny is applied to past events.

As to our current level of discourse or discord, I don’t think that’s a pure reflection of just a divided population.

I think we are being set to odds with each other by global interests for their own benefit in what amounts to a domestic color revolution to avoid the rise of populism as the globalists were about to consolidate power.

Maybe some here agree and some won’t with that take, but from my perspective the online polarity is manufactured to a large degree so I simply don’t agree with blaming the internet for that any more than I would blaming a bus for being driven through a crowd or a gun for being used in a crime.
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