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re: Trending on twitter: "I'm so happy for loser student loan borrowers"
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:00 pm to JKLazurus
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:00 pm to JKLazurus
quote:Being generous with someone else's money... is not charity. Nor virtue. So yes.
Do you need to pay your friends bills to express happiness for them?
quote:Yes. Unless you want to be a hypocrite. Nothing prevents one from paying more taxes. Wanting to force others to pay more taxes is not charity. Nor virtue.
Do you need to send an extra check to the IRS if you think tax brackets should be higher?
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Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:03 pm to hashtag
The bots would be programmed to say the exact opposite had Trump forgiven student loans.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:03 pm to AUTiger1978
quote:Absolutely. It's interesting as hell watching the ground-level propaganda spread in real time. It's exactly why The Right is crazy to completely avoid Twitter. Until they bring the fight to the venue, they will continue lose.
This is just consensus building bullshite. It’s propaganda to convince the lemmings on the fence that all the ‘good people’ are excited for their friends.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:03 pm to Topisawtiger
If ya wanna know I voted Trunp last election but like I said, it's not like I'm going to deny 20k loan forgiveness. I find it funny people bashing those receiving it when like most things it's a small percentage that advocated for it.
You can also search my post history on this board
You can also search my post history on this board
This post was edited on 8/27/22 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:04 pm to tduecen
quote:Moral relativism sucks. Mooching is wrong, even in small amounts.
I find it funny people bashing those receiving it when like most things it's a small percentage that advocated for it.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:05 pm to hashtag
quote:
Bots
Precisely…..at least the vast majority of that BS is bots.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:06 pm to East Coast Band
quote:Most of the ones I'm seeing are real people repeating the same line. Granted, they aren't much deeper than bots. But the psy-op propaganda disguised as virtue signaling olympics is interesting as hell to me.
The bots would be programmed to say the exact opposite had Trump forgiven student loans.
Bernays would be splooging all over his compter screen if he were here to see it.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:06 pm to Taxing Authority
So did you deny the covid relief funds? Would you deny a PPP? Would you dent loan forgiveness on basis of your moral grounds?
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:09 pm to tduecen
quote:We've been over this like 500 times. Those fund 1/ didn't go to the borrower for their personal expenses. 2/ they were never intended to be paid back.
So did you deny the covid relief funds? Would you deny a PPP?
quote:Do you think people should give back what they took, after they promised to return it? I do.
Would you dent loan forgiveness on basis of your moral grounds?
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:12 pm to Taxing Authority
Cool we not talk what morally should be done, we are saying if the government came and approved a loan to forgive a percentage of any loan you have, you would dent it?
That's the basis of this because I didn't vote for it, I di t agree with it, the government just did it so of course I'm going to accept it. Just like I accepted those covid loans that I knew would be paid back one way or another.
That's the basis of this because I didn't vote for it, I di t agree with it, the government just did it so of course I'm going to accept it. Just like I accepted those covid loans that I knew would be paid back one way or another.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:16 pm to Taxing Authority
Support for Marxism from diehard Marxists.
I’d bet that those are people who don’t pay much, if anything, in fed taxes.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:26 pm to tduecen
quote:Nope. But that's a cool strawman you made up there.
Cool we not talk what morally should be done, we are saying if the government came and approved a loan to forgive a percentage of any loan you have, you would dent it?
quote:I get it. You have no expectation for people to have basic morals. Cool.
That's the basis of this because I didn't vote for it, I di t agree with it, the government just did it so of course I'm going to accept it. Just like I accepted those covid loans that I knew would be paid back one way or another.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:32 pm to Taxing Authority
You acting like you wouldn't accept it if it was thrown your way
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:37 pm to Taxing Authority
Well... I've been thinking about this.
YES- this is a vote buying scheme. But remember, after they get that vote the screw you every time... usually for their own personal benefit.
So what's the catch and where's the trigger; how many lbs pull is that trigger? The trigger is obvious: $10k is very likely below the total balance for the vast majority of debt holders. So they aren't wiping out most holders debt... they are enrolling you into a program.
So things to watch for all ye who getting bought:
- some fine print that allows the debt holder to significantly increase the interest rate on the remaining balance. They know there will be debt remaining.
- Those interest rate hikes are probably on an accelerated schedule at a multiplier of FedPrime, PPI, or CPI. For example, Fed rate goes up 0.5, yours goes up 0.6 (20% over). Fed goes up 1.0, yours goes up 1.4 (40% over). They know the rate and inflationary enviroment they've incurred.
- Fees. Who would pass up a $350 (for example) fee for 10k in forgiveness? No one. But it'll be yearly (or monthly??) until you pay off the balance to be "enrolled" in the program. Guess what, it will also be added to the balance and the inflated and accelerated interest charged on it.
- they'll require periodic enrollment or paperwork submissions to "keep" your 10k waiver because it is likely "held" until the balance is paid off with an expiration date. Don't pay off balance by X date, it comes back. AND, if you don't "re-enroll" it comes back. At which time fees will be reapplied.
YES- this is a vote buying scheme. But remember, after they get that vote the screw you every time... usually for their own personal benefit.
So what's the catch and where's the trigger; how many lbs pull is that trigger? The trigger is obvious: $10k is very likely below the total balance for the vast majority of debt holders. So they aren't wiping out most holders debt... they are enrolling you into a program.
So things to watch for all ye who getting bought:
- some fine print that allows the debt holder to significantly increase the interest rate on the remaining balance. They know there will be debt remaining.
- Those interest rate hikes are probably on an accelerated schedule at a multiplier of FedPrime, PPI, or CPI. For example, Fed rate goes up 0.5, yours goes up 0.6 (20% over). Fed goes up 1.0, yours goes up 1.4 (40% over). They know the rate and inflationary enviroment they've incurred.
- Fees. Who would pass up a $350 (for example) fee for 10k in forgiveness? No one. But it'll be yearly (or monthly??) until you pay off the balance to be "enrolled" in the program. Guess what, it will also be added to the balance and the inflated and accelerated interest charged on it.
- they'll require periodic enrollment or paperwork submissions to "keep" your 10k waiver because it is likely "held" until the balance is paid off with an expiration date. Don't pay off balance by X date, it comes back. AND, if you don't "re-enroll" it comes back. At which time fees will be reapplied.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:43 pm to JKLazurus
quote:Yes you should. But we all know leftists like yourself are leeches and wint send anything extra in, just demand others pay more.
Do you need to send an extra check to the IRS if you think tax brackets should be higher?
Posted on 8/27/22 at 5:25 pm to tduecen
it's not like I'm going to fricking decline it. It isn't my choice at all so I'm not worried about how you feel either...
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Posted on 8/27/22 at 5:27 pm to I20goon
I hope all that is true - in spades - and vigorously enforced.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 5:32 pm to ChineseBandit58
Awwwww so you would call and say, "hey look I don't want any of my student loan forgiven, it's against my principle"
This post was edited on 8/27/22 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 8/27/22 at 5:33 pm to tduecen
This has neither been approved or passed. It's a proposal. Using the Heroes Act to pass this is likely unconstitutional and will be challenged in congress and the courts.
This is, at this moment, a carrot to get votes in the midterms.
Nothing is official yet at all.
This is, at this moment, a carrot to get votes in the midterms.
Nothing is official yet at all.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 5:38 pm to tduecen
quote:
You are also paying for everything else I mentioned.... how do you feel about that? Like I said, I've been paying mine and finally the government wants to do something that actually benefits me in the slightest, it's not like I'm going to fricking decline it. It isn't my choice at all so I'm not worried about how you feel either....
Ignore the downvotes because this is really the only intelligent opinion on the subject. I’m fricked no matter what, least I don’t have to pay my loans now
can’t imagine having been making monthly payments this whole time 
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