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re: Treason is an understatement. This is something else entirely.

Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:14 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479603 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:14 am to
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These assets were being held in international banks as funds are normally kept in the banks of the countries that they do business with.

After accounting for their national debts, Iran had access to about $40B. President Trump ordered new sanctions after his election, $100B of their funds were frozen in international banks once again.


Hence, my question to him (that he dodged)
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
24295 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:14 am to
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Trump can spin the most absurd fantasy and there are always fools who willingly lap it up as gospel. I don’t think there’s been anything else like it in the history of the republic..,



The only fantasy being spun is by you and others that Trump sits around talking shite all day and accomplishes nothing. You may not like Trump or agree with his policies, but he's accomplished much within the established DC blob resisting him. Grok didn't mention Trump's reordering of the globalist international status quo system that has been taking advantage of the US for decades.

Grok helped me out:

Border Security and ImmigrationSharp drop in illegal border crossings: Apprehensions at the Southwest border fell dramatically (reportedly 87% in some periods), reaching the lowest levels in decades, with negative net migration achieved for the first time in 50 years. Policies included resuming wall construction, reinstating "Remain in Mexico," ending catch-and-release, and deploying military/National Guard support.


Mass deportations and enforcement: Over 2.5–2.6 million removals or self-deportations, including hundreds of thousands of individuals with criminal records. Enhanced ICE capacity, visa revocations for security risks, and designations of cartels as terrorist organizations.


Fentanyl and drug trafficking reductions: Monthly seizures dropped significantly (e.g., ~50–56% at the border in early periods), with overdose deaths declining (reported 21% drop in one summary) through supply chain targeting, arrests, and new sentencing laws.


Public Safety and CrimeDeclines in violent crime: Largest one-year drop in homicides on record in some reports, with reductions in major cities (e.g., via targeted federal task forces in D.C., Memphis, Chicago). Overall drops in rapes, robberies, and assaults noted.


Gang and cartel actions: Dismantling efforts against groups like Tren de Aragua and MS-13, plus operations targeting drug traffickers.


Economy and JobsTax relief and legislation: Passage of the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" making 2017 tax cuts permanent, adding provisions like no tax on tips/overtime/Social Security, and other relief. Rescissions package cutting wasteful spending (e.g., ~$9 billion).


Job creation and wages: Hundreds of thousands of private-sector jobs added (e.g., ~654k in one early summary), with emphasis on native-born workers. Blue-collar wage growth and real earnings increases reported.


Energy and growth: Boom in energy exports (e.g., LNG), deregulation, and claims of GDP beats (e.g., 4.3% in one quarter), record investments in manufacturing/reshoring (~$10 trillion announced in one summary), and lower gas prices in early

Other: Stock market records at times, inflation moderation efforts, and initiatives like Trump Accounts for newborns.

Foreign Policy and National SecurityPeace deals and diplomacy: Brokered agreements, including Armenia-Azerbaijan peace (hosted signing), Gaza ceasefire efforts, and NATO defense spending increases (to 5% of GDP in one report).

Military and deterrence actions: Strikes on Houthis, Iranian nuclear sites (in support of Israel), and operations against drug traffickers/cartels. Increased pressure on adversaries.

Trade and alliances: Tariff strategies to address fentanyl/immigration, deals on critical minerals (e.g., with Australia), and transactional diplomacy yielding commitments.

Government Efficiency and OtherDeregulation and cuts: Large-scale executive actions, DOGE-related efforts to reduce bureaucracy/spending, and shifts in federal workforce.

Additional areas: Criminal justice reforms (e.g., Laken Riley Act), veteran/support initiatives, and responses to disasters.





Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1344 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:42 am to
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Hence, my question to him (that he dodged)
I didn’t go back and read the question, but I think you have mentioned that these assets will be released incrementally.

Narratives have been repeated for so long about the JCPOA and the ‘pallets of cash’, they are seen as facts and never questioned or researched. The President said some of those same things in the OP vid. They are ‘red meat’ talking points and basically revisionist history. Iran actually feared/respected enough to only violate the terms almost a year after his sanctions on them.

He could have easily have spoken on the weakest points of the JCPOA and left it at that. In his first term, Tillerson, Mattis, Dunford, & McMaster all agreed with him that JCPOA was flawed and advised patience and diplomacy in renegotiating it. They were either fired or resigned and replaced with the likes of Haley, Pompeo, & Bolton…poster children neocons.
Posted by AC1221
Member since May 2025
201 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:47 am to
Correct. This was to correct SFP's claim that 1.7B was the entire amount Iran was given access to for the JCPOA by the Obama admin.

Biden unfroze several billion, but i lost track of the total. the only one that stuck in my head was the 10 billion they had Oman release to Iran 2 weeks after Oct 7th.

And i agree, i don' think they will make it far enough to see any substantial assets unfrozen or adhere to the MoU
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49638 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:50 am to
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Wait till you find out how Trump just agreed to do this same thing on a MUCH larger scale


no words can quantify the extent of TDS that motivated this /\

I yield.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1344 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:09 am to
The narrative surrounding the $1.7B has grown legs that are just not true. That was separate from the JCPOA. I think that assets have been released from time to time for humanitarian reasons even during sanctions.

I just personally believe that he was the ONE president who could have brought Iran to heel just by renegotiating the JCPOA in his first term. After his first term ‘maximum pressure’, continued sanctions, 12-day war, & this one, I can easily see the hardliners and IRGC blowing this MoU up before it has any legs. Even if Israel somehow backed off and withdrew entirely from Lebanon, the IRGC has restructured and assumed leadership roles in Hezbollah, and they know a few rockets will end it with a quickness.
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
1178 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:20 am to
You guys are slaves to misinformation. Get a life
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
14230 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:31 am to
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You guys are slaves to misinformation. Get a life


It tickles me how liberals who have spent the last 8 years falling for every piece of Dem propaganda and lies calls us out for slaves to “misinformation.”

Wonder what your post history would tell us about your opinion on the Russian collusion hoax…
Posted by AC1221
Member since May 2025
201 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:43 am to
Funds were released for humanitarian reasons, but the Iranian president said they were Iranian funds and that they would use them for whatever they saw fit.

Trump very well could have renegotiated the JCPOA in his 1st term, but whether it was ego or his general bull in a china shop approach, he decided to withdraw.

I'm extremely curious to see how this all plays out. Between the Iranian infighting, Israel/Hezbollah/Iran, etc, these will be interesting times.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1344 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:25 am to
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Iranian infighting
This is not discussed enough. Their system is so much more complex than a Theocracy. The belief that they are all a bunch of rabid dog radicals is just not true. There is not a hive mind, and many of the ‘layers’ in their system have competing interests. For whatever reason at the outset of this war, it was thought a good idea to assassinate as many of them as possible, no matter what part they played in the government. In theory, there is an organized layered power structure. In reality, the IRGC is likely the head of the snake. I would not be surprised if they have killed just as many people in their government as the enemy has. More than a few experts believe that Iran is a military dictatorship.
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Israel/Hezbollah/Iran
Refer to the statement directly above. Hezbollah is not Iran. Hezbollah is the IRGC.
Posted by HeadLightBanDit
Hernando, MS
Member since Oct 2012
1885 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:31 am to
It's pretty plain Trump had his diaper pulled down on the national stage and Bibi and the mullahs in Iran ran a train on that shite encrusted geriatric a-hole of his.
This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 11:34 am
Posted by M3From225
Member since Feb 2021
341 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:32 am to
A lot of people will need reprogramming after this period of history passes…. If you automatically believe what someone says based upon their party affiliation - you need help regardless of which party you’ve been brainwashed by
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
2546 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:57 am to
For reference where the frozen assets are located…..

China: Estimated to hold between $20 billion and $50 billion, primarily from past and continued oil purchases.

Iraq: Holds approximately $6 billion to $15 billion in funds from Iranian electricity and natural gas exports, which Baghdad cannot freely transfer due to U.S. restrictions.

India: Holds roughly $7 billion in banking systems from past oil purchases before sanctions were reimposed.

Qatar: Holds about $6 billion (originally transferred from South Korea for humanitarian purchases), which remains heavily restricted pending diplomatic negotiations.

Others: Additional funds are also held in countries like Japan, Oman, and Luxembourg, alongside roughly $2 billion held directly in the United States.

The US also froze up @50 million in Iranian real estate as well.


Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
11381 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:00 pm to
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Wait till you find out how Trump just agreed to do this same thing on a MUCH larger scale


No matter how much you lie you cannot convert a falsehood to fact.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2197 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:45 pm to
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What?
I typed in english and repeated what you said that was factually incorrect and then you backtracked.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2197 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:46 pm to
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Go back a few pages to the article I posted and quoted. I even bolded the important part for people like you
What you posted did not prove "attempted spin"
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2197 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:47 pm to
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kilo


That was awesome!
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2197 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:54 pm to
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Trump folded


He bombed the hell out of them, almost completely destroyed their military, killed a bushel of their leaders, blockaded their passsage, opened when he wanted to and is now testing them to see how they're going to react to the deal.

Seriously, this place is amazing.

We're running out of ammunition!
Do what it takes!

This is costing too much!
No price is too high!

We're fighting Israel's war!
Why are Trump and Israel not on the same page?

Close the strait!
Open the strait!

Get this over with and get out of there!
Trump caved and let them off the hook!

Trump said no new wars!
We have to respond to this threat!
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2197 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:56 pm to
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Trump can spin the most absurd fantasy and there are always fools who willingly lap it up as gospel
What they hell are you even talking about
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2197 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:00 pm to
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It's pretty plain Trump had his diaper pulled down on the national stage and Bibi and the mullahs in Iran ran a train on that shite encrusted geriatric a-hole of his
Another idiotically stupid comment that ignores Israel's reaction to all this

How do you people function. Do you require special needs caregivers?
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