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re: Trans Shooter was Demon Possessed
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:26 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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The trans stuff likely isn't even a relevant data point. It seems to be the hyper-focus of people trying to turn this partisan-political, ignoring the voluminous evidence about the shooter that has nothing to do with trans stuff, establishing his mental break, motivation, obsession, etc.
I don’t totally disagree with you, I agree the trans thing is more of an outward expression of a deeper issue.
However I think where we split is that isn’t political or religious. In reality everything is political . The politics and religion of this come in a few ways
1) Divorced parents. Every single one of these shooters has either divorced parents or an abandoned/absent father situation at home. None of them have a normal, healthy family. Bad politics such as divorce laws have accelerated the issue
2) The modern therapy/psychology industrial complex that does not work. Pill pushing (SSRIs), and the affirming model of therapy. Deeply disturbed people that aren’t getting the help they need and instead are being affirmed in their delusions by therapists and their parents/peers
3) Lack of God and not believing in the real presence of evil all around us. They don’t have anyone in their life recognizing the trouble signs, and trying to offer them a path to faith. People this deep down a dark hole, usually cannot get out with out divine intercession and faith. It’s ultimately their decision to turn away from the darkness and come to the light, but it is clear he did not have anyone in his life presenting this option
4) Not properly dealing with psychotic people. Simply put, people like this exhibit plenty of warning signs. There’s no way he was just some normal functioning person in society and was hiding all of his derangement. We are all so worked up into this individualism and hyper liberalism of you just do you man, that we don’t have communities that can rally around and get people like this in line or at worst case in a protected facility where they can’t hurt themselves or other people
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:44 am to burger bearcat
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Not properly dealing with psychotic people
This is the primary issue but
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people like this exhibit plenty of warning signs
I think this is an assumption
By most (all?) credible reports, he passed as normal.
I've seen people post tweets from a coworker saying he as "so nice" in a shocked way
And he hid this for a LONG time. Like 12-13 years.
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There’s no way he was just some normal functioning person in society and was hiding all of his derangement.
People want to believe this because the alternative is so scary, but in this case it doesn't seem to work.
It's more common than people want to admit.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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The trans stuff likely isn't even a relevant data point. It seems to be the hyper-focus of people trying to turn this partisan-political, ignoring the voluminous evidence about the shooter that has nothing to do with trans stuff, establishing his mental break, motivation, obsession, etc.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:48 am to Smeg
Those aren't even fully correct (I just checked on Uvalde randomly to confirm), and it ignores the analysis of the facts of this case, regardless.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 7:59 am
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:49 am to Smeg
This has to be a CIA psyops, just too many trans going postal to not be a coincidence
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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By most (all?) credible reports, he passed as normal.
He was dressing in women’s clothes? How is that passing as normal?
I’m guessing he lived at home and couldn’t function in a normal job.
He was probably on the internet in discords and gaming a lot
He was not a normal, healthy person. Stop your gaslighting BS. Your entire schtick where you pretend to act so obtuse about the obvious observations all normal people can see, and you pretend there is some other more nuanced explanation for it, is completely predictable and downright nauseating
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:22 am to Smeg
Most of those shootings as trans have been debunked . But MAGAs will lap it up anyway
A breakdown of mass shooters-
Straight cisgender males: 98%
Trans: 0.13%
A breakdown of mass shooters-
Straight cisgender males: 98%
Trans: 0.13%
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 8:24 am
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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By most (all?) credible reports, he passed as normal.
Your definition of normal needs a brand reimagining.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:41 am to Honest Tune
Ted Bundy was as normal as they come. The Shooter bragged about being able to blend in as normal while his mind was swarming with evil doings.
All Trans despise those who are not sympathetic to their misery, regardless that they were cut with it from birth. I.e., Christian-based Predestination. So Christians especially are despised as there is a Theological basis for rejection of such behavior.
Secularism believes that it is “life’s lottery” that determines a person’s fate from birth into this world. Many cursed from day one and forward. I suppose they don’t believe in a personal hereafter. Christians believe as promised by God that we will be “judged by our fruits (beliefs and actions)” into our next life. Many Religions believe that it was a previous life that determines this life. So which is more congruent with a fair and Just entrance into a next life, or this one. Go figure. Not rocket science.
All Trans despise those who are not sympathetic to their misery, regardless that they were cut with it from birth. I.e., Christian-based Predestination. So Christians especially are despised as there is a Theological basis for rejection of such behavior.
Secularism believes that it is “life’s lottery” that determines a person’s fate from birth into this world. Many cursed from day one and forward. I suppose they don’t believe in a personal hereafter. Christians believe as promised by God that we will be “judged by our fruits (beliefs and actions)” into our next life. Many Religions believe that it was a previous life that determines this life. So which is more congruent with a fair and Just entrance into a next life, or this one. Go figure. Not rocket science.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:34 am to wackatimesthree
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I don't know whether you are a believer or whether you ridicule the idea of the supernatural. For those who believe, I think the quoted passage above is the most sensible approach.
I'm not a believer but I dont outright dismiss folks that observe and report on and believe in the supernatural. Im endlessly fascinated by it and absolutely acknowledge that there is much about our reality that humans dont understand and is currently outside of our perception.
I was also raised with a severally mentally ill sibling that at times would go into rages that resembled what some folks would probably think is demonic possession. She scared several psychologist so badly that they refused to see her anymore. And then be perfectly fine hours later. This happened most often when she would go off medication or there was a change in her medication. She had EEG and MRIs done that showed abnormal electrical and gray matter volumes in areas associated with epilepsy and borderline personality.
I'll have to do deep dive into how demon possession is diagnosed some day. I'll admit Im skeptical of a lot of these claims by so called demonologist but if you have some media or literature to recommend I 'll take a look.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 10:18 am
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:37 am to ThuperThumpin
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I'll have to do deep dive into how demon possession is diagnosed some day. I'll admit Im skeptical of a lot of these claims by so called demonologist but if you have some media or literature to recommend I 'll take a look.
There's a whole lot of hocum related to it for sure. You'll see a lot of people praying for the "spirit of alcoholism" to leave someone or some such thing, which is not Biblical.
I recommend reading something by Dr. Richard Gallagher. He's a board certified psychiatrist, on the faculty at Columbia, and also a professor at New York Medical College. He got into this field purely by accident—he was contacted by a priest to help determine whether a parishioner was mentally ill or whether she was demonically possessed, and he was initially very skeptical.
At this point (he's now been examining these types of cases for over 25 years) he's assessed thousands of such cases and determined that maybe 100 of them are legitimately related to demonic activity (which is probably about right, or maybe even a little high IMO).
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 10:38 am
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:41 am to burger bearcat
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He was dressing in women’s clothes? How is that passing as normal?
Are we discussing the relevant psychosis or the irrelevant trans stuff?
I thought we were having a relevant conversation.
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He was not a normal, healthy person.
I specifically did not say that. I said he passed as normal.
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Stop your gaslighting BS.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:58 am to ThuperThumpin
Read Johnathan Cahn’s “The Return of the Gods”. It’s a factual and Footnoted presentation of the Archaeological history related to Ancient Pagan Civilizations. There is no speculation or scientific disagreement, only the inscribed monuments and texts which bear witness to the gods/demons that ruled the societies in those days. You will never feel the same after examining it. I have to admit that my fear and awareness that we are all prey was heightened. Maybe something you n might choose to avoid, depending on your personal faith and comfort zone.
Good luck. Or God speed. Whichever applies.
Good luck. Or God speed. Whichever applies.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:00 am to wackatimesthree
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I recommend reading something by Dr. Richard Gallagher.
Thanks..I check it out.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 6:48 pm to VoxDawg
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:04 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Facts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:36 pm to tigersmanager
With all the various discussions here, is there any way to know if the monster's parents should have known? Or not known?
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:02 pm to ThuperThumpin
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I'll have to do deep dive into how demon possession is diagnosed some day. I'll admit Im skeptical of a lot of these claims by so called demonologist but if you have some media or literature to recommend I 'll take a look.
Fr Carlos Martins would be a good start. An exorcist, and recently wrote a book discussing various cases. Link to book below.
I know the RCC gets a bad wrap for claiming there is a demon around every corner, but there is actually a very strict protocol for a Diocese to authorize an exorcism, and even still the exorcist/priest often brings along psychologists to do an initial intake. It’s a pretty involved process before they determine there it is a possession.
In most cases it is more the lines of an oppression or attachment.
Exorcist Files
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:51 pm to BluegrassCardinal
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As if he had some specific knowledge of me.
Clergy and others involved in Exorcisms have documented this capability of those possessed by Demons - they do have some extraordinary insight and knowledge that would be impossible for the unpossessed person to acquire.
But my opinion is that I would not conclude that this Trans shooter was possessed because it's not wise to reach that conclusion based on no professional investigation into the question. We can guess that he was possessed but, nobody should conclude that this is the case.
OP should change the thread title because we simply cannot reach this conclusion without further evidence.
Here is a link to the Official book on Exorcisms:
De Exorcismis
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:28 pm to RebelExpress38
Sounds like MKUltra to me, from what I've researched.
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