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re: Tort reform in Louisiana - you can only choose 3

Posted on 2/18/24 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81642 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 12:21 pm to
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There is no reason why a plaintiff needs to know how much insurance is carried.
How else will they know if to stat a client on a chiro path or surgical path?
Posted by Butch Baum
Member since Oct 2007
2828 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 1:53 pm to
Remember any sort of “commission” or hearing committee would in the end be filled with LCD humans- just how the world works
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15420 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 6:57 pm to
I’m not a plaintiff personal injury lawyer.

I have serious problems with arbitration in non-arms length transactions.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422577 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:11 pm to
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I don’t see how mandatory disclosure of insurance limits reforms the tort laws. There is no reason why a plaintiff needs to know how much insurance is carried.

I mean you can make this non-mandatory but it will have to be provided in discovery.

Hell, when the defendant is under oath in deposition they'd be obligated to tell you (and the insurer and its chosen attorney would create a conflict of interest in preventing the defendant from revealing this information).

Now, you can argue the jury doesn't need to know.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21604 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:15 pm to
14.) Make Louisiana a no fault state.

Just need that one.
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
2913 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:51 pm to
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1). cap on general damages

2). Future medical expenses have to be put in reversionary trust

3). Attorney advertising prohibited

3b) No special weight to opinion of treating physician


*there needs to be some sort of protection against spoliation - otherwise a claimant can have had a surgery and a year of prior treatment before that before the insurer even knows about the potential claim
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48965 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:04 pm to
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Attorney advertising prohibited


Should be number one..... Nation wide

quote:

Increase mandatory minimum insurance coverage to 25/50/50


Two. This should be higher anyway

quote:

Complete elimination of direct action except in 1st party cases



Success
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9928 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:40 pm to
4,5,9
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6204 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 10:17 pm to
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What changes came from the last time this happened?


Insurance rates continued to rise. And, now a severely injured plaintiff may have 2-3 year wait for trial and 2-3 more years of appeals before he can feed his family again or obtain necessary health care.
Posted by nick__21
Member since Jan 2020
168 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 12:21 am to
3, 4, 9
Posted by BrohanDavey
The Land Down Under
Member since Oct 2018
704 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:36 am to
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5) Increase mandatory minimum insurance coverage to 25/50/50


Insurance rates keep increasing as it goes, and naturally it would have to cost more to up minimum coverages, but this measure could potentially put a good dent in the amount of UM/UIM claims. Perhaps the insurance companies paying less on UM/UIM means lower rates over time. Who really knows
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10310 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:46 am to
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How else will they know if to stat a client on a chiro path or surgical path?


Shouldn't this be determined by the nature and extent of the injury more than the amount of insurance to shoot for?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:21 am to
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Hell, when the defendant is under oath in deposition they'd be obligated to tell you
Why?

If two people suffer the same injury, under the same circumstances, with the same post injury consequences and outcome, why should the jury award differ simply because one defendant is less wealthy than the other?

Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
4717 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:48 am to
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and show tort reform can't be addressed in a special session


Lol! Time to accept the fate of a poorly managed, corrupt state.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:13 am to
Caveat: I'm an insurance defense attorney.

1) Cap on general damages is not smart. Sometimes people are legitimately hurt and capping damages doesn't make them whole.

2) Yes. This is one of the major problems that needs to be addressed. If it goes into a trust, the plaintiff doesn't have the incentive to claim they are going to get multiple future surgeries. However, the missing aspect of the trust is that the plaintiff attorney still has an incentive to work up that aspect of the claim. If future medicals were exempt from the 40% attorneys fees and the money went into a trust, it could alleviate a lot of the bogus future medical claims.

3) This would only work if the plaintiff attorney is on the hook for the fees. Chances a plaintiff could afford what it costs for a defendant to go trial is less than .001%.

4) No one outside of the legal system understands how bad the judges have become. At one point, As made professors, Bs made judges, and Cs made money. Now, As make professors, Bs make decent money, Cs make "drive a Ferrari" money, and Ds and Fs run for judge. It's a pay raise for solo practitioners and bad lawyers, so those are the attorneys who run for judge.

There are a few options that make sense, but appointed judges would fix a lot of the issues. Presumably the governor or a board of some sort would make sure the judges were competent and intelligent. It would also prevent the plaintiffs bar from donating money to future judges during election season.

Would also like to see a division of the court system into civil and criminal. This would allow attorneys who do civil law to run or be appointed for a civil seat. Would also prevent civil attorneys from having to try and explain complex civil law issues to a judge who has only handled criminal cases.

5-8) Wouldn't make a dent

9) Would be great if it was practical, but I'm not sure it is. Too many people see an accident as a payday, irrespective of whether they are actually injured. This is the result of having billboards and commercials all over the place telling people that an accident is a payday. You'd have to pull down billboards and commercials and wait a decade before that mentality subsided.

10) Don't think this would be that impactful outside of the rare cases that go to trial and I don't know that it would be a noticeable change.

11-12) Need to go together. If you bump out prescriptive period, plaintiff attorneys would still file suit to determine the limits because they can't risk paying for treatment when the limits won't cover that treatment. Should also be a mechanism to allow the defendant to file the suit to start discovery, which could prevent spoliation issues.

13) See above. Would only work if the attorney was on the hook.


Not mentioned but should have been:

14) The plaintiffs bar is too tied in with the doctors where they send their clients to treat. It doesn't matter what information you show these doctors, they will almost always relate the treatment to the accident. They also recommend future treatment that almost never occurs. There are a few ways of slowly breaking up this relationship.

A) Eliminate post-settlement discounts. I'm not sure how enforcement would work in practice.

B) Limit the amount of specials that can be boarded at trial. These doctors are charging exorbitant amounts for procedures, many of which are written off with insurance, workers comp, or discounts to attorneys. These high figures increase the dollar figures at trial, even though they will never be paid. It provides incentives to doctors to "charge" way more than they are willing to accept.

C) Force the doctors to accept health insurance or worlers' comp when available.

15) Rewrite 9:2800.27. It's poorly written, creates a ton of unintended consequences, and does not account for some of the main reasons why insurance is out of control.

16) Enforce uniformity with all the judges. Every judge runs their court differently, and sometimes it's years to get a trial date. It should be similar to federal court where the dockets move faster and are more consistent.



Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5580 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:38 am to
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I have serious problems with arbitration in non-arms length transactions.


I do not necessarily disagree and I'm not a huge fan of arbitration but the American Arbitration Association is pretty neutral.

With that said, I agree that denying access to courts when mandating insurance is a problem. UM however is not a required insurance
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5580 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:41 am to
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Caveat: I'm an insurance defense attorney.


It's a tough life. How bad is Morgan in LA?

You should see FL - but, the tort reform is going to have a very serious effect in the next couple of years. They brought it on themselves.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422577 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:43 am to
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Why?

Telling the truth.

quote:

If two people suffer the same injury, under the same circumstances, with the same post injury consequences and outcome, why should the jury award differ simply because one defendant is less wealthy than the other?

You're asking me to answer a question involving not only people, but hypothetical people, with assumptions built into the question. I can't mind read real people, let alone hypothetical people, so I have no way to answer your framed question.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:44 am to
Non-existent. We have Louisiana versions that are probably very similar
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81642 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:53 am to
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Shouldn't this be determined by the nature and extent of the injury more than the amount of insurance to shoot for?


One would think.
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