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Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:52 pm to Flats
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:52 pm to Flats
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It's not excessive for this place, it's just hypocritical (or dishonest, take your pick) if you pretend later that you only came for honest dialogue with no insults.
It was 6 pages ago. I've posted plenty of straightforward dialogue backing up my points on every page since.
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:01 pm to Sam Quint
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Absolutely preposterous. Based on WHAT, besides feelings?
lol this dude is absolutely a hardcore leftist just attempting to muddy the waters
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:08 pm to scottydoesntknow
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lol this dude is absolutely a hardcore leftist just attempting to muddy the waters
Why do you default to "anyone not hard right must be left"? Is it not possible to take hard stances on issues that have nothing to do with each other that
also exist on different sides of the fence?
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:10 pm to ansertiger
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Trump is the exact sort of secular moderate
Except he's a sad excuse of a hypocritical human being who doesn't know the first thing about diplomacy or unity. His personality and values alone make a whole lot of independents and moderate conservatives want to vote dem whether you want to believe it or not, simply because you can't trust a single thing he says. Biden's presidency has been easier to digest than Trump's has so far, and Biden is a joke.
You should back off the left wing propaganda. Democrats including Biden are 100% the vile disgusting human beings that the media makes out Trump's caricature to be. Not to mention that they can pursue their evil agenda with impunity because they have the media, urban courts, and Federal Bureaucracy on their side allowing them to do whatever they want and crucifying Republicans for the equivalent actions. If you're voting for Democrats because you think they are somehow better than Trump, then you're not very bright. That's assuming everything you said about Trump is true.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:11 pm to ansertiger
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Doesn't change my feelings about Trump himself, but apologies for being excessive there.
Articulate, specifically the policies Trump enacted in his basically 2 year term that made him extreme
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:12 pm to ansertiger
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lol this dude is absolutely a hardcore leftist just attempting to muddy the waters
Why do you default to "anyone not hard right must be left"? Is it not possible to take hard stances on issues that have nothing to do with each other that
also exist on different sides of the fence?
Politically we don't have a "hard right" in this country. You want hard right, go to Afghanistan. American conservatives want individual liberty for the most part, which is not a characteristic of the far right or the far left.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:15 pm to ansertiger
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Why do you default to "anyone not hard right must be left"? Is it not possible to take hard stances on issues that have nothing to do with each other that
also exist on different sides of the fence?
Because this is what hardcore leftists do. They cant actually articulate policy that makes sense because none of their ideals are logical. Instead they lie and deceive. You are repeating the same garbage that you hear from every hardcore leftist about Trump and like them cant name any policies he had a hand in enacting that supports your hate. Its not hard to see you people for what you are. You arent clever
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:17 pm to ElCazador
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Politically we don't have a "hard right" in this country. You want hard right, go to Afghanistan. American conservatives want individual liberty for the most part, which is not a characteristic of the far right or the far left.
I mean yeah, it's all relative. I'm obviously referring to the American version of hard right, which of course would still be very left in Afghanistan.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:18 pm to ansertiger
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It was 6 pages ago.
It was your opening salvo. Don't act shocked when that sets the tone.
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backing up my points
I'm still waiting on an explanation for why your morality is ok to codify but if someone who believes differently than you wants the same that makes them fundamental nutjobs.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:30 pm to ansertiger
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…narcisistic Trump cultists …
Nice broad brush … idiotic and wrong, but good for you. At least you’re making an effort to get those cheap and insulting talking points in. The problem is, “narcisistic [sic] Trump cultists”, such as myself, don’t permit you to define us -especially with your simplistic, irrational, and divisive terms that you complain about at the end of your post.
quote:. No names? No examples? Where are your descriptors of those who continue to defend and vote for them? I guess you only save those for the “narcisistic [sic] Trump cultists”.
- The democrat city mayors are wholly corrupt, unqualified, racist, criminal sympathizers.
quote:Your fundamental misunderstanding of what is the Separation of Church and State does not make conservative state governors out-of-touch and incapable of fixing “real issues in our communities”. Do not mistake this comment for a defense of politicians and bureaucrats. They are the problem but not for the reason you cite.
- The conservative state governors don't care what separation of church and state means and are far too out-of-touch to fix the real issues in in our communities.
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- Trump might be the most hypocritical, narcissistic ässhole I've ever seen come into office so much so that you can't trust a single word he says about anything.
Is President Trump narcisstic? Of course. Name one President, or politician, or any other high profile individual (actors, CEOs, etc that is not).
Does President Trump embellish? Absolutely. Again, name one that does not and has not.
Untrustworthy? President Trump is the most investigated man in the history of the world. In order to get convictions his enemies had to change laws and create crimes in order to go after him in their efforts to destroy him. There are many liars and dishonest individuals in the conversations, but so far, President Trump is not one of them.
quote:What kind words you have. You failed to mention the multitude of crimes Biden and his family have been implicated in or the fact the DOJ chose to not prosecute him for the same stolen document nonsense President Trump is facing in Florida, because he’s a feeble old man who is mentally deficient and therefore not capable of facing prosecution.
- And Biden is a smug elitist who also currently has the mental capacity of a slug in a salt mine.
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I don't care about your virtue-signaling systemic racism BLM trans-rights Palestine sign in your front yard... or what your pastor says is a sin, moments after committing that exact sin himself.
quote:Your entire post is a contradiction.
There are no halfway moderate options anymore, much less anyone who has any semblance of morality or reason, and this country that I love is becoming increasingly divided and worse off because of it.
You just blasted everyone and everything YOU deem immoral and lacking reason, and you’re frustrated because you can’t find anyone who “has any semblance of morality or reason”.
JUST MAYBE it is you that is the narcissistic a-hole lacking a moral compass and inability to reason, and it is this that makes you incapable of deciphering truth and fact and determining what is just and reasonable.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:44 pm to ansertiger
California wants to block knowledge of their kids sex changes from parents.
Louisiana thinks you should read your bible.
These things are not similar
Louisiana thinks you should read your bible.
These things are not similar
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:44 pm to Great Plains Drifter
quote:Over the course of the past few decades, Democrats have successfully infiltrated the GOP to the point most elected GOP officials are democrats. An example: Did you know that Democrat Ilhan Omar has a more conservative voting record that Republican Senator Susan Collins?
While I do not agree with this characterization on the GOP side of things, for the sake of better understanding please remind me of exactly what accomplishments the Pubs had made for about 30+ years when these extreme elements were not being reflected in people at the top like Bush I, Bush II, McCain or Romney?
People continually and conveniently seem to want to disregard about 3 decades worth of a whole lot of “not much” from the Republican Party and then act bewildered by why people aren’t clamoring for more of it.
See for yourself:
Ilhan Omar LINK
Susan Collins: LINK
Elise Stefanik - a jewel of the GOP votes with democrats more often than she does republicans. LINK
And the further left democrats push this nation when they have control of both houses and the WH,the GOP (democrats) leave those policies in place once they regain control. However, there are plenty of dog and pony show congressional investigations with no real action or recourse. We are seeing that now every day.
It’s all an illusion; A dog and pony show, but what a great feeling when one of those politicians give a verbal punch in the mouth to the other side … “They got told”. How happy the masses are in the moment. They have a new hero - until they don’t.
Until people become their own hero and throw off the cloak of a party label, or attachment to a familiar name, or legacy, or one issue voting, only then will we take this nation back. Until this happens the Uniparty will continue to successfully divide and destroy us as a people and a nation.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:47 pm to Cheese Grits
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What folks call MAGA today is not the MAGA of Ronnie.
Tell us what YOU believe defines the MAGA movement.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:55 pm to ansertiger
With the exception of a Marjorie Taylor green or a Rand Paul most of these Republican Congressmen are not interested in rocking the boat as long as they are getting paid and have government retirement, and their families are taken care of. They just go along with the flow with these evil bastards.
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:10 pm to ansertiger
There isn’t anymore middle ground to be had as you cannot reason with the insanity that is the Democrat party.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:20 pm to bayoudude
The “middle man” was best described by Ayn Rand (broken into shorter paragraphs for ease of reading on this cite):
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There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil. The man who is wrong still retains some respect for truth, if only by accepting the responsibility of choice.
But the man in the middle is the knave who blanks out the truth in order to pretend that no choice or values exist, who is willing to sit out the course of any battle, willing to cash in on the blood of the innocent or to crawl on his belly to the guilty, who dispenses justice by condemning both the robber and the robbed to jail, who solves conflicts by ordering the thinker and the fool to meet each other halfway.
In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win.
In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.
In that transfusion of blood which drains the good to feed the evil, the compromiser is the transmitting rubber tube . . .
When men reduce their virtues to the approximate, then evil acquires the force of an absolute, when loyalty to an unyielding purpose is dropped by the virtuous, it’s picked up by scoundrels—and you get the indecent spectacle of a cringing, bargaining, traitorous good and a self-righteously uncompromising evil.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:43 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Because this is what hardcore leftists do. They cant actually articulate policy that makes sense because none of their ideals are logical. Instead they lie and deceive. You are repeating the same garbage that you hear from every hardcore leftist about Trump and like them cant name any policies he had a hand in enacting that supports your hate. Its not hard to see you people for what you are. You arent clever
I already said he didn't really do much of anything. He's always talked a lot about how great he is, often contradicting himself, and generally just sent the already-moving left even further left.
He's not policy a extremist which is good, but a few of the many things he promised and didn't follow through on...
- Trump promised to "build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" as one if his biggest campaign promises. Wasted $15 billion or more worth of time and resources on a border wall that only increased the existing walls by 47 miles, still leaving about 1200 miles unwalled.
- He promised to eliminate the national debt over the course 8 years... It only went up higher each and every during his presidency and had no signs of slowing down towards the end, growing by another 30-35% during his term.
- promised to repeal and replace Obamacare, which never happened
He did keep his promise lower taxes across the board which is good in theory and helped the average individual a little bit, but it was far more beneficial for the ultra-rich and corporations. Unfortunately the rich like their money so nothing trickles down and the pay gap between CEO and worker has only increased sense.
Mostly, he just speaks about nonsense that will never realistically happen (like deporting all illegal immigrants and allowing the "good ones" reenter), contradicts himself over and over, and tries to create division between the people of our country by saying whatever he can to get his MAGA's all riled up and the Dems pissed off.
The man isn't presidential in the slightest and doesn't know what an olive branch looks like.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:51 pm to Sam Quint
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Would love to hear, specifically, which positions the republicans have gotten EXTREEEEEEEME on?
Attempts to ban IVF is pretty extreme to me.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:53 pm to kingbob
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Attempts to ban IVF is pretty extreme to me.
Strange, I must have missed that bill working it's way through Congress
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:59 pm to ElCazador
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Democrats including Biden are 100% the vile disgusting human beings that the media makes out Trump's caricature to be.
MAGA! EVERYTHING THEY SAY ABOUT TRUMP IS A LIE. JOE BIDEN IS REALLY THE ONE CAUGHT RAW DOGGING STORMY DANIELS AND SAYING GRAB THE PUSSY. THE BAD TRUMP STUFF IS ALL MADE UP BY LIBERALS. MAGA 2024. DONT FORGET TO DONATE LOTS OF MONEY TO TRUMP.
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