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re: Tonight's vote on the CR-billl gave us some clarity on who are not real conservatives

Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66555 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:20 pm to
That's the board in a nutshell. Rog, BuckyCheese, SFP, jnoles, 14 and counting all think Trump is not conservative because he is not fiscally responsible. DJT supporters perceive everything that is not Trump as GOPe/RINO/cuck. And away we go.

To be fair, there is a ton of confusion over the debt ceiling. Baws at patriots.win didn't understand DJTs's position.
Posted by srotaG adirolF
Lakeland, Florida
Member since May 2004
806 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:22 pm to
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and if the primary fails you get a D or an emboldened GOPe in that seat.

Oh my days...

Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88732 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:25 pm to
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That's the board in a nutshell. Rog, BuckyCheese, SFP, jnoles, 14 and counting all think Trump is not conservative because he is not fiscally responsible. DJT supporters perceive everything that is not Trump as GOPe/RINO/cuck. And away we go.
I have a hunch that many of those listed are just enjoying playing both sides.

“You’re not a conservative if you want the bill passed.”

“Ha, y’all didn’t get the bill passed.”

Basically infighting on the board with some posters trolling both sides of the right wing infighters.

It’s fun, and for guys like SFP, they can’t really lose.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:30 pm to
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That's the board in a nutshell. Rog, BuckyCheese, SFP, jnoles, 14 and counting all think Trump is not conservative because he is not fiscally responsible.


Goes far beyond his fiscal beliefs. He's not a cultural conservative in the least either.

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21794 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:31 pm to
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Funny how they didn’t read the first one and were gonna vote yes until a non govt person said something. Now they’re voting no on a smaller bill. These conservatives sure are awesome

I haven't followed this soap opera but did google the names of the Republicans that voted no today, and there are some legit conservatives on that list. Have they said why they voted no?
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24495 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:38 pm to
The people voted for Trump. Trump said what he wants congress to do. Congress decided to do something else. Now Trump and Elon will destroy those reps. And I know this is going to break some hearts but Trump is coming in like a gorilla with a chainsaw dick.

I trust the GEOTUS far more than any one member of congress. And substantially more than them all combined.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5083 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:39 pm to
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The amount of people who think they are conservatives simply due to spending is in this thread is laughable. Most of those same people claim that conservatives have always been anti union. Just ignorance.


“Conservative” is a meaningless term. We weren’t conserving anything. The country was always shifting left.

Populism is a real thing, and it’s the only alternative to what we just voted against.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39505 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:42 pm to
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lease educate me, oh enlightened one.

Explain how Musk and Trump are conservatives. I won't hold my breath.


You are too partisan to understand.

I
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 7:44 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62550 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:45 pm to
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Yep, its sad watching them sprint to the left...
I mean, this CR spends more than the McCarthy bills, and adds an unlimited debt ceiling for 27-months. And somehow not voting for that isn’t “conservative”.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39505 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:46 pm to
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How so? Be specific please, and keep in mind whoever comes in next cycle can pretty much ignore Trump.


How will they be able to ignore Trump? You think Dems will win the house and the senate?
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4473 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:47 pm to
Bayou. it’s not all of a sudden gonna HAULT the deficit spending. all this stuff is being ramped thru on purpose & to create havoc before DJT can even move into the WH.

At least he is fighting this before he is even in office, if it were another RINO (Bush etc) winning and moving into power, there would have been ZERO fight.

that’s the difference so far! At least we come out swinging.

And the picture of the BEFORE & AFTER bill just in “size” stacked next to each other makes me happy! I don’t know what is in it, but I’ve seen enough legal documents in my life, the more papers, the more loopholes and legalize to manipulate and meander thru the swamp like old times!

let them chip away at the machine
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295872 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:47 pm to
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I mean, this CR spends more than the McCarthy bills, and adds an unlimited debt ceiling for 27-months. And somehow not voting for that isn’t “conservative”.


They actually learned a lot from the MSM machine. They duplicated the tactics. Words just dont have any real meaning.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:49 pm to
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I haven't followed this soap opera but did google the names of the Republicans that voted no today, and there are some legit conservatives on that list. Have they said why they voted no?



Here's Roy's opinoon;

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JUST IN: Texas Rep. Chip Roy starts yelling at his Republican colleagues, shreds them for "never having any ounce of self-respect."

"You've added to the debt since you were given the majority again on November 5th. It's embarrassing. It's shameful."

"Yes, I think this bill is better than it was yesterday on certain respects. But to take this bill yesterday and congratulate yourself because it's shorter in pages, but increases the debt by $5 trillion is asinine."

"I am absolutely sickened by a party that campaigns on fiscal responsibility and has the temerity to go forward to the American people and say you think this is fiscally responsible."

"It is absolutely ridiculous."
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 7:51 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:50 pm to
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How will they be able to ignore Trump? You think Dems will win the house and the senate?


After two years of Trump I'll be amazed if they don't get crushed in the House.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39505 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:51 pm to
Remember what Rush used to say..."Everything is political 100 % of the time".

That means that Chip and the Freedom Caucus and everyone else up there is playing politics and they don't give a damn about conservatism.

They are all fighting for a piece of the pie and daddy took the pie away.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6586 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:52 pm to
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They have no idea how far they've shifted.


List for me the conservative republicans.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46064 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:52 pm to
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Explain how Musk and Trump are conservatives.


The same way war-hawk, police state, censorship loving, corporatist democrats are "liberal".

I love this shite. Leftists come on here to call conservatives out on their purity. fricking solid gold!
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
26279 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78062 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:53 pm to
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 But to take this bill yesterday and congratulate yourself because it's shorter in pages, but increases the debt by $5 trillion is asinine."
He's right you know.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295872 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:53 pm to
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They are all fighting for a piece of the pie and daddy took the pie away.


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