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Today (January 19) is Robert E. Lee’s birthday. A timely quote?
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:11 pm
*This is not a was or wasn’t the Civil War about slavery? post.
It’s an excerpt of a response Lee penned to Lord Acton (of “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely” fame) on December 15, 1866.
Whether or not you believe the trope, those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it … I think an argument can be made that history’s echoes never go away.
Lee Family Digital Archive
It’s an excerpt of a response Lee penned to Lord Acton (of “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely” fame) on December 15, 1866.
Whether or not you believe the trope, those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it … I think an argument can be made that history’s echoes never go away.
Lee Family Digital Archive
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 12:35 pm
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:25 pm to EKG
Prophetic
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:27 pm to EKG
The South was right about the Yankee Empire.
Just look at it today. Military bases around the world and forever wars.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:29 pm to EKG
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:30 pm to EKG
Mr. Blair, I look upon secession as anarchy. If I owned the four millions of slaves in the South, I would sacrifice them all to the Union; but how can I draw my sword upon Virginia, my native State?
There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil.
"It is well that war is so terrible. Otherwise, we would grow too fond of it."
There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil.
"It is well that war is so terrible. Otherwise, we would grow too fond of it."
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:38 pm to EKG
I think that the majority or all of his direct descendants live in places other than Virginia. A lot of them served in the US Navy. Some are in CA and one was a Lt Gov in Maryland some live in Boston and I think also in upstae NY and if memory serves one in TX
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:49 pm to TrueTiger
Should we trade it for a Southern empire? South had designs on N.Mexico.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:52 pm to TrueTiger
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Just look at it today.
As opposed to...
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:56 pm to Lynxrufus2012
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"It is well that war is so terrible. Otherwise, we would grow too fond of it."
What people tend to forget about the above quotation is that it was said while his army was slaughtering the Federals in front of Marye's Heights at Fredericksburg. The man was absolutely enjoying it and had to remind himself that these were human beings who were being killed in their thousands.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:03 pm to KiwiHead
Pretty weak effort there
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:14 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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As opposed to...
Switzerland
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:26 pm to TrueTiger
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Switzerland
You think the mouth breathers in the South would've turned us into Switzerland?
I don't, but even so, thankfully they lost.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:34 pm to EKG
Just FYI: today is also the birth date of Edgar Allan Poe. FWIW.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 10:41 am
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I don't, but even so, thankfully they lost.
Is this the part where you pretend to be emotionally invested in the Civil War?
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:36 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
We'll never know thanks to the Yankee penchant for Karen-like meddling.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:38 pm to blueridgeTiger
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Edgar Allan Poe
A favorite quote and it's never been more true than now.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:39 pm to EKG
"So far from engaging in a war to perpetuate slavery, I am rejoiced that Slavery is abolished. I believe it will be greatly for the interest of the South. So fully am I satisfied of this that I would have cheerfully lost all that I have lost by the war, and have suffered all that I have suffered to have this object attained."
"Remember, we are all one country now. Dismiss from your mind all sectional feeling, and bring them up to be Americans."
"Sir, if you ever presume again to speak disrespectfully of General Grant in my presence, either you or I will sever his connection with this university."
My favorite is an anecdote that reportedly happened during his presidency of Washington University. A fellow professor, also a Confederate veteran, observed Lee near the gates of the university, engaging with a fellow who was obviously not in the best of circumstances by his appearance and dress. They were speaking in lowered tones and Lee seemed to be almost consoling the man who was shaking Lee's hand and appeared to nod and sob. The observer waited until they disengaged and then approached Lee and asked, "Sir, who was that man?"
Lee replied, "That was an old soldier who now finds himself down on his luck. I have been helping him of late." The observer asked, "A Virginian? In which regiment did he serve?" Lee answered, "He was one of those who fought against us."
"Remember, we are all one country now. Dismiss from your mind all sectional feeling, and bring them up to be Americans."
"Sir, if you ever presume again to speak disrespectfully of General Grant in my presence, either you or I will sever his connection with this university."
My favorite is an anecdote that reportedly happened during his presidency of Washington University. A fellow professor, also a Confederate veteran, observed Lee near the gates of the university, engaging with a fellow who was obviously not in the best of circumstances by his appearance and dress. They were speaking in lowered tones and Lee seemed to be almost consoling the man who was shaking Lee's hand and appeared to nod and sob. The observer waited until they disengaged and then approached Lee and asked, "Sir, who was that man?"
Lee replied, "That was an old soldier who now finds himself down on his luck. I have been helping him of late." The observer asked, "A Virginian? In which regiment did he serve?" Lee answered, "He was one of those who fought against us."
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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As opposed to...
a decentralized federal republic of individual States Jefferson envisioned.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:42 pm to Lynxrufus2012
quote:a very democrat thing to say bc the mic was already in full force at that point.
It is well that war is so terrible. Otherwise, we would grow too fond of it."
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:44 pm to Cuz413
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a decentralized federal republic of individual States Jefferson and our Founding Fathers envisioned.
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