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Today is a bittersweet day for the City of New Orleans
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:15 am
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:15 am
The recall petition will be turned in today with more than enough signatures. There will no doubt be legal challenges ahea, effortds to throw out signatures, etc.
Many people including on this board thought this petition had no chance at all, and were trashing it all along the way. Whether they ultimately get knocked down in the courts or whether we actually have an election, I've been impressed with how this effort has gone. They seem to have left it all on the field, so to speak.
No group of citizens should ever have to deal with an elected official that is so terrible that a recall is necessary. This is not a celebration... this is an attempt to stop the bleeding.
But a recall effort may be the ultimate exercise in democracy. The total number of signatures needed exceeds the number of total voters in the last mayoral election.
If she is recalled, it is likely that the next mayor will be someone whom I (and most of this board) disagree with politically on many issues. Changing the mayor does not change many of the issues in this city. But this mayor is so damaged by poor personal choices that there is no choice but for her to go. The next mayor likely won't "fix" the city, but maybe they can stop it from being a laughingstock.
Many people including on this board thought this petition had no chance at all, and were trashing it all along the way. Whether they ultimately get knocked down in the courts or whether we actually have an election, I've been impressed with how this effort has gone. They seem to have left it all on the field, so to speak.
No group of citizens should ever have to deal with an elected official that is so terrible that a recall is necessary. This is not a celebration... this is an attempt to stop the bleeding.
But a recall effort may be the ultimate exercise in democracy. The total number of signatures needed exceeds the number of total voters in the last mayoral election.
If she is recalled, it is likely that the next mayor will be someone whom I (and most of this board) disagree with politically on many issues. Changing the mayor does not change many of the issues in this city. But this mayor is so damaged by poor personal choices that there is no choice but for her to go. The next mayor likely won't "fix" the city, but maybe they can stop it from being a laughingstock.
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:18 am to LSUFanHouston
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it is likely that the next mayor will be someone whom I (and most of this board) disagree with politically on many issues. Changing the mayor does not change many of the issues in this city. But this mayor is so damaged by poor personal choices that there is no choice but for her to go. The next mayor likely won't "fix" the city, but maybe they can stop it from being a laughingstock.
Agreed, the whole "grass isn't always greener" cliche is completely fricking wrong in this situation. Anyone would be better than that jabroni
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:18 am to LSUFanHouston
Good luck
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:19 am to LSUFanHouston
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The total number of signatures needed exceeds the number of total voters in the last mayoral election.
That is a pretty damn sad statement. If the recall is successful, what are the chances each of the people who signed the petition actually show up to vote
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:19 am to LSUFanHouston
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The total number of signatures needed exceeds the number of total voters in the last mayoral election.
How do we interpret this?
People too lazy to vote or people so stupid they couldn't see she was going to be terrible a second time around?
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:20 am to LSUFanHouston
It is my hope that her replacement is more than just the lesser of two evils.
City Council appears to be fully engaged now. Cantrell’s major misstep (of the many) was thumbing her nose at the CC.
She deserves this and everything Lee Zurik finds on her.
City Council appears to be fully engaged now. Cantrell’s major misstep (of the many) was thumbing her nose at the CC.
She deserves this and everything Lee Zurik finds on her.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:21 am to LSUFanHouston
Well said.
But although I agree that the next Mayor will not be someone I agree with politically, you cannot overstate how important it is for the next Mayor to understand that the people want significant change. That alone will be helpful in turning things around.
But although I agree that the next Mayor will not be someone I agree with politically, you cannot overstate how important it is for the next Mayor to understand that the people want significant change. That alone will be helpful in turning things around.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:23 am to Weekend Warrior79
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That is a pretty damn sad statement. If the recall is successful, what are the chances each of the people who signed the petition actually show up to vote
Overall voter engagement is very low in Nola. If I understand this correctly, we don’t need all of the people who signed to vote, we just need more of them than LaToya voters to turn out. I think we can meet that standard, she really is widely unpopular here.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:27 am to Jones
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How do we interpret this?
The NOLA Dems didnt allow a legit challenge to an incumbent and a Republican isnt getting elected in NOLA.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:31 am to ibldprplgld
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That is a pretty damn sad statement. If the recall is successful, what are the chances each of the people who signed the petition actually show up to vote
Overall voter engagement is very low in Nola. If I understand this correctly, we don’t need all of the people who signed to vote, we just need more of them than LaToya voters to turn out. I think we can meet that standard, she really is widely unpopular here.
If you're concerned enough about how terrible the mayor is, and you're engaged enough to actually sign the recall petition, I'd have to assume most of them would show up to vote.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:33 am to Roberteaux
More than a recall a jail cell is more appropriate for this elected official.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:34 am to LSUFanHouston
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Changing the mayor does not change many of the issues in this city
It’s like Les Miles hiring new offensive coordinators
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:38 am to S
Its still a start though.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:40 am to Jones
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they couldn't see she was going to be terrible a second time around?
no one with a pulse ran against her
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:41 am to Weekend Warrior79
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That is a pretty damn sad statement. If the recall is successful, what are the chances each of the people who signed the petition actually show up to vote
We are in unchartered territory here and this will be one of the (many) interesting storylines to follow.
If it makes it to the ballot, it's treated like any other election. The majority of who shows up to vote, wins.
It's also very likely that this will be on the October 2023 statewide election ballot, so it's likely going to be a long ballot and high turnout anyways.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:42 am to LSUFanHouston
Anyone would be an upgrade. So as long as the dipshits of New Orleans show up and vote her out they should at least be a little bit better off.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:44 am to Jones
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How do we interpret this?
People too lazy to vote or people so stupid they couldn't see she was going to be terrible a second time around?
While many of us mocked her COVID decisions, they actually were supported by a lot of the voters in the city. Walk around today and you still see a fair number of masks being worn by certain demographic groups.
The really insane personal stuff happened after the second term began.
She did have about a dozen opponents but none were known or well funded. The black democrats didn't want to run someone against one of their "own" at the time, and the white democrats didn't want to be seen as trying to throw a black woman out of office.
All of that has changed now, given her recent issues.
Make no mistake... people aren't signing the recall because they have all of a sudden become conservative. They are signing the recall because she is a vile POS who has become completely ineffective, vindictive, and can no longer lead.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:49 am to ibldprplgld
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City Council appears to be fully engaged now. Cantrell’s major misstep (of the many) was thumbing her nose at the CC.
I'm still not quite sure how much of that is true civic engagement, smelling blood in the water, or the own political wishes of those individuals.
For example, I generally appreciate and respect JP Morrell. I disagree with a lot of his politics, and he's a bit of a politically connected, never held a real job kind of guy. I do think he generally wants to see the city improve.
But look at what's he's talking about with changes to Mardi Gras. Some of them are good (such as moving some of the power out of the mayor's office, and taking a hard look at who gets a permit).
But some of them are downright scary, such as wanting to be able to censor parade themes.
I'd take JP over Latoya every day and twice on Sunday.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 11:50 am
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:13 pm to LSUFanHouston
I understand that living here means my political opinions will not align with that of any elected official; I could handle a JP or Helena as interim Mayor — I think they both have competencies Cantrell only wishes she had in her wildest dreams.
I agree with the previous poster: this isn’t a celebration, it’s a measure to stop the bleeding.
And as much flack as Nola gets on here (a lot of it deservedly so) Louisiana absolutely needs a healthy and safe New Orleans.
I agree with the previous poster: this isn’t a celebration, it’s a measure to stop the bleeding.
And as much flack as Nola gets on here (a lot of it deservedly so) Louisiana absolutely needs a healthy and safe New Orleans.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:22 pm to SelaTiger
Moreno would be an upgrade
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