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re: Tipping culture is out of control
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:18 am to slinger1317
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:18 am to slinger1317
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Was in Spain last month and took several taxis. A couple of them were to/from the airport with bags. The drivers were courteous and unloaded all of the bags. By the time I reached in to my pocket for a few Euros, they were back in the car about to drive off. They weren't standing around waiting (demanding) a tip.
What about your restaurant experience?
My experience was the servers had every incentive to keep you at the table. It was less work for them. They had a disincentive to turn over tables.
So they were late with everything. Had to ask for the check multiple times. Dining out seemed to consume twice as much time regardless of the level of communication.
My conclusion was it wasn’t so much a culture of the region, but a consequence of no tipping.
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Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:19 am to slinger1317
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Was in Spain last month and took several taxis. A couple of them were to/from the airport with bags. The drivers were courteous and unloaded all of the bags. By the time I reached in to my pocket for a few Euros, they were back in the car about to drive off. They weren't standing around waiting (demanding) a tip.
Did no one tell you they don’t tip in Europe? I’ve flat out been discouraged by people from tipping when I was staying in Scandinavia for extended periods of time. They pay their waiters and waitresses way more. It’s not the same as here.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:22 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
I do not care if the government wants to tax tips or not. What I do care about is the fact tipping is bullshite. Employers should just pay their employees that tipping is not necessary. If they have to raise their prices an extra 10-20% to cover the costs then do it.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:22 am to slinger1317
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Also we had an 80 Euro bill at a restaurant and I tipped they staff 10 more. They were so excited, and I overheard one of them say it was the biggest tip they had in months.
Servers in Europe make way more than $2.13 an hour. They are taxed into oblivion, but they also don’t have to worry about healthcare and insurance. And most of those countries have rent restrictions so housing isn’t overly expensive for them. It’s a different system. Using this as an example is borderline ridiculous.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:24 am to Willie Stroker
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My experience was the servers had every incentive to keep you at the table. It was less work for them. They had a disincentive to turn over tables. So they were late with everything. Had to ask for the check multiple times. Dining out seemed to consume twice as much time regardless of the level of communication.
as much i enjoy shitting on Europe, i think this is probably just more a reflection of their culture more than a tips vs no tips thing. seems like life just moves a little slower there than the American get in, get done, get out mentality. not saying our way is better or worse necessarily in that regard, just different.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:24 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
My daughter’s friend bought her wedding dress at David’s bridal. Paid $5000 (insane).
The gal at the dress shop turns the screen around for a tip. 10%, 15%, 20% as the standard options.
Lol. I would’ve asked “where’s the Hell No button?” She panicked and tipped 15% for three hours of dress selection. She’s a doctor.
The gal at the dress shop turns the screen around for a tip. 10%, 15%, 20% as the standard options.
Lol. I would’ve asked “where’s the Hell No button?” She panicked and tipped 15% for three hours of dress selection. She’s a doctor.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:24 am to WeeWee
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I do not care if the government wants to tax tips or not. What I do care about is the fact tipping is bullshite. Employers should just pay their employees that tipping is not necessary. If they have to raise their prices an extra 10-20% to cover the costs then do it.
You’re the same person that will cry when they realize a 20% increase at their favorite restaurant means it’s $100 a person.
If you don’t like to tip then go ahead and be the a-hole that doesn’t tip but it’s not the restaurants fault. People have tried implementing service charges to offset tips but it’s likely folks like you that also raise hell about that too.
Damned if you don’t, damned if you do.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:26 am to DeltaHog
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don’t have to worry about healthcare and insurance.
They don’t have to worry about “insurance.” Anyone who has used European healthcare systems knows they should be very worried about healthcare.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:28 am to DeltaHog
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I do not care if the government wants to tax tips or not. What I do care about is the fact tipping is bullshite. Employers should just pay their employees that tipping is not necessary. If they have to raise their prices an extra 10-20% to cover the costs then do it.
You’re the same person that will cry when they realize a 20% increase at their favorite restaurant means it’s $100 a person.
No I am not. I am smart enough to realize that a 10% increase in the bill is the same money once you factor in sales tax that I would be spending if I tipped the server 20%.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:30 am to the808bass
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My daughter’s friend bought her wedding dress at David’s bridal. Paid $5000 (insane).
The gal at the dress shop turns the screen around for a tip. 10%, 15%, 20% as the standard options.
perfect example of this tipping thing being out of control. that is insane. a 15% surcharge for an already wildly expensive dress because the person who works at a dress store did the work that a person who works at a dress store does?
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:31 am to Willie Stroker
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Was in Spain last month and took several taxis. A couple of them were to/from the airport with bags. The drivers were courteous and unloaded all of the bags. By the time I reached in to my pocket for a few Euros, they were back in the car about to drive off. They weren't standing around waiting (demanding) a tip.
What about your restaurant experience?
My experience was the servers had every incentive to keep you at the table. It was less work for them. They had a disincentive to turn over tables.
So they were late with everything. Had to ask for the check multiple times. Dining out seemed to consume twice as much time regardless of the level of communication.
My conclusion was it wasn’t so much a culture of the region, but a consequence of no tipping.
You're wrong. Most europeans and especially southern Europeans do not get in a hurry about anything. Also they consider meals to a social event and you are suppose to dine instead of eat. Their being late with everything is a culture thing not a tipping thing.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:35 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
I don't tip dealers in Vegas either. Do they know the next card they turn, do they know if it's going to land on black or red?
Just stupidity all a round.
Until they abolish the IT for everyone, pay taxes on your earnings.
If there's a "loop hole" use it. If you work for cash claim what you have to.
The game will never be in our favor but, game it as best you can.
Just stupidity all a round.
Until they abolish the IT for everyone, pay taxes on your earnings.
If there's a "loop hole" use it. If you work for cash claim what you have to.
The game will never be in our favor but, game it as best you can.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:40 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Tipping culture is out of control
It is out of control because people tip people that aren't supposed to be getting tipped. Nobody in their right mind would think you need to tip the counter person at McDonald's, yet for some reason because you're at a coffee shop you need to tip that person. It is asinine.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:40 am to WeeWee
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No I am not. I am smart enough to realize that a 10% increase in the bill is the same money once you factor in sales tax that I would be spending if I tipped the server 20%.
Here’s an idea: how about we stop blaming the small business that’s barely making ends meet and stop taxing them out the arse?
I own a restaurant and I pay over 25k a month in taxes to the government. If I could keep that money in the bank I’d be able to pay everyone who worked for me a great wage with benefits.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:42 am to the808bass
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They don’t have to worry about “insurance.” Anyone who has used European healthcare systems knows they should be very worried about healthcare
Your opinion on whether their healthcare systems are good or bad has nothing to do with this conversation
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:43 am to duckblind56
As well not go against total earnings that slides a person into a higher bracket
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:43 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
You do realize most tipping is optional, correct?
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:48 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Tipping culture is out of control
I don't mind tipping for good service, particularly the server keeping my drink topped-off. I will NOT tip the person taking my order at the counter. frick you, you're a cashier. That whole tipping cashiers thing is just a way for the employer to pay them less.
Speaking of which, my daughter once worked at a bougie snow cone place. It was all high school kids. There was a tip jar at the end of the line next to the register. Every night the owner, an Indian lady, would empty the tip jar into her purse on her way out and the kids never saw a dime of it. Hope that bitch gets audited one day.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:50 am to Tantal
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That whole tipping cashiers thing is just a way for the employer to pay them less.
100%
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Every night the owner, an Indian lady, would empty the tip jar into her purse on her way out and the kids never saw a dime of it
that is infuriating.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:13 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Why are we trying to incentive/ subsidize it further?
Agree this is only going to lead to more tip jobs being at the lowest possible salary ($3ish range). Should have to be minimum of minimum wage and then you earn extra on tips
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