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re: Tim Walz denied Catholic schools' request for security?

Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:54 pm to
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The government’s number one reason for existence is to protect the citizens of its own country. Especially children.


PREACH!

Posted by Chef Curry
Member since Mar 2019
2829 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:59 pm to
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Ehhh, should the government subsidize all private organizations?


They sure like to tell private organizations/corporations what to do (think Covid stupidity) so yeah, they should be on the hook.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58506 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:20 pm to
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All you'd need are your recently found rock solid principles of small government.


My pointing out the hypocrisy of the “small government types” who have consistently been begging for more government intrusion apparently bugs you.

When I point out the hypocrisy and contradictions of the board, I rarely espouse my personal beliefs.

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The government shouldn't have to talk you into being for reducing the size of the huge, sprawling government we have now. If you really adhere to small government principles.




Likewise. Small government principles don’t align with taxpayer funded security for private organizations. You can make whatever emotional appeals you want in attemtps to justify your hypocrisy but it’s still hypocrisy.

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you sure didn't love it then.


What specifically are you referring to? What exactly are you accusing me of supporting?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21908 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:23 pm to
Sue his arse in civil court
Posted by coldbeerfan
Orange Beach RTR Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
1524 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:24 pm to
You’re a bigger idiot than I thought if that’s what you read into my post. But it looks like to me and others, that you don’t give a damn about any kids that don’t attend government funded schools. So you are saying kids that are indoctrinated by socialism should only be protected. Got it.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58506 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:27 pm to
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I dunno, are private residences usual targets of MASS SHOOTINGS?


What makes the lives of homeschooled kids less important than the lives of private school kids? Why do you want protection for private school kids and not homeschooled kids?

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Have any homeschool families ASKED for paid details?


They know they aren’t entitled to that but you’re saying they ARE entitled to taxpayer funded security because they are required to get an education.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 5:28 pm
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
3854 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:32 pm to
The government should not give religious private schools funds for any reason.
What if this was a Muslim School in Dearborn. MI, and they needed funds for protecting children from Muslim haters?
The fact that many of you can't see this very slippery slope is incredible.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
12691 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:33 pm to
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What makes the lives of homeschooled kids less important than the lives of private school kids? Why do you want protection for private school kids and not homeschooled kids?


Bish... I didn't even say all that. Take that strawman, shove it up yer rump sideways and set it on fire.

You are not nearly as clever as you think you are.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
12691 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:34 pm to
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The government should not give religious private schools funds for any reason.

What if this was a Muslim School in Dearborn. MI, and they needed funds for protecting children from Muslim haters?

The fact that many of you can't see this very slippery slope is incredible.


Wow.. Is anyone actually opposed to protecting Muslim school students?

What slippery slope? All taxpayers are funding education... state mandated education. Does it matter WHERE the child goes to school as to whether or not they receive reasonable protection?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24280 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:44 pm to
My kids go to a small private school. I don't want any government funds used for our school.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
3854 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:46 pm to
The students should absolutely receive protection... funded by the private, for-profit institution. The question here is not whether kids deserve protection, but who pays for it
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62147 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:47 pm to
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Ehhh, should the government subsidize all private organizations?


This is a very enlightening statement. You're okay with taking guns away but not with protecting children.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135066 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:49 pm to
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My kids go to a small private school. I don't want any government funds used for our school.
FBI gets wind of a pending threat there, you don't want the school to know that? You don't want the FBI, or LEOs to aid in fending it off?
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38604 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:49 pm to
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the small government conservatives will be here to explain how using public money to pay for the private security of private organizations is a tenet of small government conservativism.


Your argument might hold water if those private school parents didn't pay taxes for public schools upkeep.

The other massive hole in your gotcha is this is at the state level. The "small government conservatives" you're citing object to the federal government usurping states' rights and responsibilities.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
23933 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:50 pm to
It’s a said situation but at the end of the day they are private schools and do not have a right to public funds.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62147 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:51 pm to
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My kids go to a small private school. I don't want any government funds used for our school.


The government has no funds. That is YOUR MONEY.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62147 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:51 pm to
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It’s a said situation but at the end of the day they are private schools and do not have a right to public funds.



Incorrect.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68756 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:52 pm to
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It’s a said situation but at the end of the day they are private schools and do not have a right to public funds.



I would just like an acknowledgement that because I pay for both public school and private school, I'm better than the people who only pay for public school.

I'll accept all the double standards pending that admission.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24280 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:52 pm to
Sure, but we pay for that with taxes. I am talking about the government giving the school money for guards, or them providing the protection. I don't want them to have any reason to be able to tell us what subjects to teach, who we have to accept, and other things like that.
Posted by TigerV
Member since Feb 2007
2826 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:53 pm to
I don’t know of the government should be made responsible for a guard at every school. Our kids are at a Catholic school, each family pays a small fee for security every year (given fees for each sport and other crap, it is really small). As a result, we have an armed sheriff onsite 30min before school until 1 hour afterwards. The church is also locked during school mass, parishioners can come in, but at mass time the doors are locked. There are a host of other security features that have been implemented and we have a walk through with the Sheriff’s office and local fire department every year to asses the security and provide input.

This is not complicated if the administration is willing.
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