re: Tim Sheehy: "Pakistan appears to have won every engagement so far with Chinese technology"

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It’s like pretending that the OG F16’s that we sell to shitty middle eastern countries

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Truth is "the OG F16’s that we sell to shitty middle eastern countries" would dispose of anything in the air on either side if the F16s were equipped with modern US detection, evasion, and weapon systems.

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40 year old French systems at that. 

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Incorrect. You know that the Rafale Fighter has been modernized and is considered a 4.5 generation Fighter Jet. So why play stupid and lie about its current capabilities?


"The French Rafale fighter jet is not based on 40-year-old technology, though its origins trace back to the 1980s. The Rafale program began in the mid-1980s, with Dassault Aviation developing the first prototype, the Rafale A, which flew in 1986. However, the production aircraft, starting with the Rafale C, M, and B variants, entered service much later, with the French Navy’s Rafale M operational in 2001 and the Air Force’s variants in 2006.

The Rafale has undergone continuous upgrades, making its current iterations significantly more advanced than its initial designs. Key systems, like the RBE2 AESA radar (introduced around 2012), Thales SPECTRA electronic warfare suite, and advanced avionics, reflect modern technology. The F3R standard, operational since 2018, and the ongoing F4 standard (with deliveries starting in 2021) include cutting-edge features like improved sensors, network-centric warfare capabilities, and compatibility with modern weapons like the Meteor missile. The Snecma M88 engines, while based on a 1990s design, have been upgraded for better performance and efficiency.
While the airframe and core design stem from the 1980s and 1990s, the Rafale’s systems, software, and weaponry have been consistently modernized. For context, 40-year-old technology would align with aircraft like the F-16A or Mirage 2000, which lack the Rafale’s current multi-role capabilities and advanced electronics. The Rafale’s iterative development keeps it competitive with contemporaries like the Eurofighter Typhoon or F-35, though some argue its base platform is less “next-gen” than stealth-focused designs.
So, no, the Rafale isn’t 40-year-old technology—it’s a continually evolved platform with modern systems layered onto a design rooted in the 1980s."

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Truth is "the OG F16’s that we sell to shitty middle eastern countries" would dispose of anything in the air on either side if the F16s were equipped with modern US detection, evasion, and weapon systems.

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That would make them very much NOT original F-16 base/export models though. Which is my entire point.

India’s Rafales are “new” in that they are recently manufactured, but they don’t have anything approaching the systems that the French currently use. Same sort with the MiG 29 and Su 30’s that India has. Nothing like their modern Russian counterparts

Same thing with Pakistan. None of their J-ripoff whatever’s are anything approaching what China currently employs.

FRANCE’S Rafales have the latest tech.

The export models that they sold to India do not.

ETA: Did you use ChatGPT or Grok or another AI for your post?

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They have bought French jets.

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Best jets on the planet if flown in reverse ... aka run away! run away! mode.

If India ever needs to conduct a synchronized retrograde, they should hire Milley to lead it, and French equipment to supply it.

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The export models that they sold to India do not

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The export model India purchased was built to the F3R standard which was only available starting in 2018. It is not 40 year old technology like you claimed. It is considered a 4.5 generation Fighter Jet.


"The Indian Air Force (IAF) operates 36 Dassault Rafale jets, acquired through a 2016 deal with France. These jets are built to the F3R standard, which became operational in 2018. The F3R standard includes advanced features like the RBE2 AESA radar, Thales SPECTRA electronic warfare suite, improved avionics, and compatibility with modern weapons such as the Meteor beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile and SCALP cruise missile. India’s Rafales also incorporate 13 India-specific enhancements, including advanced sensors, helmet-mounted displays, and high-altitude operation capabilities tailored for India’s Himalayan region."

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ChatGPT or Grok?

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I'm going to guess DeepSeek

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I’ll never understand why some people here refuse to comprehend that China is a huge fricking threat. Such arrogance

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Recognizing the threat isn't the same as being fearful of it or even overly concerned about it. China's confident so why shouldn't we be? Difference is, we've proven we kick arse, what has China proven? That they can steal our shite, build stuff and moneywhip poor countries? Let's see it on the battle field if it comes to that. No one touches an organized, united, pissed off USA in war. Got to come here at some point and that's a task few, if any, will take on.

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Recognizing the threat isn't the same as being fearful of it 

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You are correct. But the only ones acting fearful are the ones like SDVTIGER who consistently deny reality and claim anything posted about China is fake news or AI manipulated. When a former Navy Seal is telling you the Truth but you refuse to believe reality that shows who is actually fearful