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re: Tim Kaine appears to reject notion that people have natural rights. Yikes

Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:32 am to
Posted by BeepBopBoop
Northshore
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:32 am to
Prick needs to move to the UK
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:33 am to
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What a moron. But what do you expect when these people worship the government as God?


He’s not a moron. He’s saying exactly what he thinks of you, that you’re a useless mouth and the only reason he allows you to live is through his own mercy and that he can strip you of your life and freedom if he wants to.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109691 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:37 am to
Ayatollah Jefferson?
Posted by TheDude854
Member since May 2019
392 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:38 am to
“ The world is very different now. For man holds in his mortal hands the power to abolish all forms of human poverty and all forms of human life. And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe -- the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God.”

—JFK
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:38 am to
I guess the only flaw in the "rights from God" idea is that if another group of believers become in charge of the government, you will suddenly find out that your rights are coming from a different God than yours.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
7311 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:39 am to
With Communists and Communist sympathizers, expect Communism. They believe The State should be the end all entity for everything.

If they had it their way, you would speak when they give you permission to do so. You would be a slave to the state, and you would live in a state owned hut while your "leaders" live in ornate mansions, while eating the finest foods and drinking the best wines.

Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
6471 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:42 am to
Take any basic Political Theory class and you are learn most theories start with the notion of natural rights. Is the social contract we form governments, but with the understanding the exists of natural rights. We just argue constantly what those natural rights are which leads to political divisions.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26930 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:42 am to
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I guess the only flaw in the "rights from God" idea is that if another group of believers become in charge of the government, you will suddenly find out that your rights are coming from a different God than yours.


That can happen regardless of the perceived source of your morality.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:43 am to
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I guess the only flaw in the "rights from God" idea is that if another group of believers become in charge of the government, you will suddenly find out that your rights are coming from a different God than yours.


That’s not what it means. It means you have inalienable rights given to you by God just for existing, regardless who that God is.
Posted by Furious
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:45 am to
And that guy is supposed to be a Christian Catholic. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1091 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:46 am to
The Catholic Church teaches this as well.

Tim Kaine = Catholic in Name Only

Fvck off, CINO.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20476 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:47 am to
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They think we're serfs.
They want their slaves to serve their betters.

The Democrats hated losing their slaves and have been trying ever since to get them back.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1091 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:48 am to
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that dude definitely likes to sniff penis


Pretty sure he’s more than a sniffer. He’s a full fledged leftist cocksucker.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26930 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:51 am to
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That’s not what it means. It means you have inalienable rights given to you by God just for existing, regardless who that God is.


At the philosophical level, yes. At the practical level he's correct. It's not as if everybody will agree on what those "inalienable rights" are, so we're left with the messiness of figuring it out.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35455 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:52 am to
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This is a remarkable moment from Tim Kaine. He just announced that the core foundational principle of our country, affirmed in the Declaration of Independence, is "extremely troubling" and "theocratic"

Freudian Slip.

We all know that the Establishment Uniparty politicians have felt this way for at least 70 years. Kaine just slipped up and said the quiet part out loud, not connecting the dots in the moment about how his statement is antithetical to the foundations of American freedom.

No one ever accused him of being intelligent or self aware.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:55 am to
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At the practical level he's correct.


No he’s not, and anyone who thinks this should be thrown the frick out of office immediately and never given power again.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26930 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:59 am to
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No he’s not, and anyone who thinks this should be thrown the frick out of office immediately and never given power again.


I'm talking about the post you took issue with from True Tiger, not Tim Kaine. True Tiger is 100% correct. Merely acknowledging that inalienable rights exist is a far cry from everybody agreeing on what those rights are.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9513 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:02 am to
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Wasn't his son an Antifa member that assaulted a 60yo woman?


Yep.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
6349 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:05 am to
He probably read it in China when he was taking classes on why it's evil. That dude is straight up Manchurian Candidate. I'll bet they wish they'd chosen someone not so stupid to be their plant.
Posted by geauxEdO
Member since Aug 2017
139 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:12 am to
this should piss off every single American. A slap in the face, not only to our Founders, but to the American people. We are just mere peasants at the mercy of the government according to Tim Kaine.

We should not let this go - every single Democrat should be forced to respond to his comments to see where they stand.
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