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re: Three alleged CIA agents, arrested in Congo after failed coup attempt

Posted on 5/20/24 at 8:23 pm to
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 8:23 pm to
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Roland the headless Thompson gunner by Warren zevon is a song about it. Great tune


I actually heard that song for the first time several weeks ago while in my moms car. She has satellite radio so I was able to listen to it several times, which led me to looking up what went on during that time.
Posted by evil cockroach
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 8:27 pm to
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quote: Doubtful, that’s not how CIA operates.

And they wouldn't be groveling for their lives.
what I was thinking as well
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:11 pm to
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Warren zevon


Man was an incredible musician, and really intelligent. Much of his work seemlessly blended catchy toons with dark, geo-political undertones
Posted by Espritdescorps
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:34 pm to
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Man was an incredible musician, and really intelligent. Much of his work seemlessly blended catchy toons with dark, geo-political undertones


Zevon was so underrated .. just couldn’t shake the heroin addiction.. desperados under the eaves is my favorite of his
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:51 pm to
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 11:39 pm to
I wish the worst for them and I use to not think like that. They are probably terrible people that will get exactly what they deserve.
Posted by ole man
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:12 am to
Natural resources, it's best if we tell you how to run your country, been happening for decades why you think we always at war
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18519 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:37 am to
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These guys were tied into the coup leader’s son and the whole thing was amateur hour. If the CIA was trying to stage a coup, they wouldn’t have sent those chuckleheads.


So if it was them it would have been done like....the bay of pigs or the two dozen failed attempts on Fidel.....
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:45 am to
They wont kill them or torture them, the US govt will run about 20 million through USAID (that was hillary's favorite honeyhole) and call it a day.

Any corrupt leader of a 3rd world country knows those two are bank for a back door payment to your favorite latin american bank. Paid by USAID, laundered through the Lat Amer Inter Monetary Fund, right to your Panamanian Offshore Bank Account.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 5:04 am to
They deserve whatever comes their way
Posted by Espritdescorps
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:39 am to
Dude liberals used to be so anti war anti MIC and now they’re essentially war mongers and zelensky boot kickers. Wtf is wrong with people
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:55 am to
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Damone thinks these boys are Passport Bros, lol. Regardless, you would have to be an idiot to be in that area as an American.
Probably missionaries caught in the wrong place.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:32 am to
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These guys were tied into the coup leader’s son and the whole thing was amateur hour. If the CIA was trying to stage a coup, they wouldn’t have sent those chuckleheads.

quote:

So if it was them it would have been done like....the bay of pigs or the two dozen failed attempts on Fidel...


You aren't making the point you think you're making. But that's okay, you don't know any better.

Internally driven coups are hard enough to pull off. Externally driven ones even more so. Probability of success is low, even for the pros.

Hence my original point.
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If the CIA was trying to stage a coup, they wouldn’t have sent those chuckleheads.


Very likely they were roped in by the son, and IF (huge IF) they had any support from our IC, it was along the lines of "these guys are going to go for it; throw them a bone or 2 and see what happens - hell they might get lucky."

It was almost certainly not an op driven by our people (at least not in the “real attempt” sense).
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 7:47 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:11 pm to
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So if it was them it would have been done like....the bay of pigs or the two dozen failed attempts on Fidel.....
The CIA wasn't "boots on the ground" in any of those, so no.

If you think those 2 guys in the video are CIA, then this is nothing like those you mentioned.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 8:12 pm
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:13 pm to
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The CIA wasn't "boots on the ground" in any of those, so no.

Really? You could very well be right but I’m just having a difficult time believing that.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:17 pm to
The CIA trained the exiles, and planned the mission. . .but they were not combatants
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:39 pm to
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And they wouldn't be groveling for their lives.


They’re human beings, and they probably understand 100% that 1) no one is coming for them, and 2) they’re likely going to undergo pretty extensive torture before they’re killed. So yeah, they’re groveling because they know they’re toast.

These guys might be CIA, or they might just be useful pawns used by the CIA.

But make no mistake, we’ve had a CIA presence throughout Africa for many years.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9512 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:43 pm to
Looks a whole like the Gretchen Wittmier set up only its the cia instead of the fbi.
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