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re: Thoughts on AI's reported advances of overtaking the internet in 6-12 months

Posted on 9/12/26 at 11:36 pm to
Posted by Stat M Repairman
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Posted on 9/12/26 at 11:36 pm to
Posted by Stat M Repairman
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Posted on 9/12/26 at 11:39 pm to
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Makes a good point. This alignment over safety concerns materialized this week.
Posted by VooDude
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 4:51 am to
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I'm not a bot and I'm thrilled with Trump so frick off
Dumbot
Posted by VooDude
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 4:55 am to
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It's amazing people don't see through the BS narratives even still after all we've been through. Here is why they are peddling these narratives. 1.) The big players want to increase the barrier to entry so that future startups are less likely to compete with them. Add a regulatory layer that only they have the resources to comply with. 2.) The uniparty Blackrock types that run things do not want open source moels to exist. They willl push to ban or nerf open source/open weight models. They do not want to lose control over being able to censor the AI. This is HUGE. They'll say it's because of safety but it's really about controlling narratives, tracking people, and keeping people in check.
But Sam Altman is a good person without a salary and cares about the mission so much he’s willing to work for free. To enhance this mission, why not have competition and more players enter?
Posted by Stat M Repairman
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:42 am to
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Seems like the plan is to blame the imminent global economic collapse on AI.

Started as "AI gonna take your jobs." Now it's morphed into "Ai gonna permanently damage internet infrastructure."

All these billionaires getting out in front of it so they could tell us "told you so."
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 10:24 am to
I will get worried if the AI gets to the point where it can power itself.

Humans have control over the fuel, the generators, the breakers, and the wires.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 10:48 am to
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I have to correct chatgpt repeatedly. I dont think ai is quite ready to take over


This guy thinks his 20 dollar a month gpt sub gives him access to the most advanced AI.

I'm not saying its going to take over. But the product that typical consumers have access too is heavily gated and restricted with all sorts of guidelines.

What you're seeing is probably a weaker, sanitized version of what was in a lab 2 years ago.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 10:59 am to
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significant impact


You mean “effect”.
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 2:58 pm to
AI is dumb AF.
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 4:07 pm to
chatgpt actively tries to tell you what you want to here, as opposed to factual
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 5:54 pm to
I don't know if it will be a year, 2 years, 5 years, or 10. But it's coming.
While nations race to the AI "finish ", we'll all end up being under the same AI dominance, eventually. AI won't recognize different flags.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 6:08 pm to
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Somebody flipped the switch on all this.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 6:41 pm to
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You have to win.




How will we know that we've won? Will China suddenly begin capitulating to any and all US demands?

Will it take a hot war to prove to all sides that we are the AI winners?


How does that go down? If we "win" and don't dismantle everyone else's AI research, any win would be temporary.
Posted by Asharad
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Posted on 9/14/26 at 5:47 am to
If you lived through the Y2K crisis, then you should know the exact same thing is happening today.
Posted by LSUbest
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Posted on 9/14/26 at 6:12 am to
Oh no!

Not the Internet!

We're all going to die!

Maybe a real invasion by real people will help get our minds off of it.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:17 am to
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What's really dumb is AI (LLMs) are basically all linear algebra models ha (i.e. we were defeated as a species by essentially y=mx+b)


It's true that it's all math, but the issue is you can create a logic that you "understand" at first, but over time it becomes a somewhat "chaotic" system. That is to say, a system that has underlying logic, but has become too complex for even the creators to understand. And even if you did understand each calculation, it still might give results that's hard to predict. That is to say, you could run a simulation on the same hardware with the same code and get the AI to react differently.

This kind of becomes similar to chaos theory. Take a very simple equation:

xt+1?=f(xt?)

You can know the function "f" with 100% precision, but if your understanding of what "xt" is at any moment isn't absolutely perfect, you will be unable to predict the outcome once you run the function. It is the whole "a butterfly flaps its wings in India and causes a tornado in Texas" scenario. And in the real world, we are going to have imperfect information most of the time.

Here is what ChatGPT says about this:

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The striking thing about AI is that we're in an unusual situation: we actually have the equations. We have the architecture and the weights. But the resulting system is sufficiently complicated that understanding the computation is becoming a scientific research problem in its own right.

That's why AI interpretability researchers sometimes describe what they're attempting as essentially reverse-engineering a program that nobody explicitly wrote.
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