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re: Thomas to Jack Smith and Garland: You don’t have Authority

Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by AUauditor
Georgia
Member since Sep 2004
1662 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

Dems be getting their shite pushed in lately, lefties don't like it


Literally, they do like it...figuratively, they do not.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26098 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:49 pm to
Because no statute from congress has created an office of special counsel. The legislative history is also compelling given that such statutes lapsed and were not made law thereafter.
Posted by tigerfan 64
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Member since Sep 2016
6131 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:49 pm to
But we were told on the highest authority (SFP) that Smiths SC was beyond challenge.
Maybe Thomas can debate sfb.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466156 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:53 pm to
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But we were told on the highest authority (SFP) that Smiths SC was beyond challenge.

That's not what I said at all.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19247 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

I think I had an argument with SFP on this exact point recently.

It wasn’t at all clear that the AG can appoint a special prosecutor without authorization from Congress.

Now it’s clear they can’t.
If the "Independent Counsel" law had not expired they could have continued because that law did grant powers to the DOJ to do such. But it did expire and calling it a "special prosecutor" or "special counsel" do not erase the appointments clause.

If you distill it down, Thomas is saying to the left your word games don't change Jack shite here.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9053 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

touching long-standing precedent


Roe v. Wade says hello.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
45867 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Unbelievable how close we were to absolute disaster...

No one will ever convince me God himself did not intervene in this country's affairs in 2015/2016

It wasn't God; it was Mitch McConnell, the guy who posters on here say is no different than a Democrat.


You can't leave out the whole 2016 election, man. Had HRC won, Garland was a shoe-in.

In fact, the main reason Dems didn't flip the frick out over McConnel was because they were 100% sure it was only a matter of a few months before Garland got in.

Thus, God.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22794 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:44 pm to
Thomas gives no effs anymore with all of the new attacks on him for being unethical.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112560 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

The prior rulings are based in US from Nixon (the one from 1974)


I didn't realize Roe and Chevron were still good law.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21345 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:47 pm to
Will we see the legality of Smith's authority challenged in court?
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15171 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:58 pm to
Shut up once and for all you stupid frick
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
10972 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:44 pm to
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SlowFlowPro

We tried to tell you, you dumb bitch.

In the next episode of your insane saga, you will pretend to be smarter than Clarence Thomas.

And I’d also like to point that Thomas Massie was correct for questioning the Jack Smith appointment, despite your disappointment.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 3:47 pm
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7904 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:45 pm to
Question - is that the same court that decided Roe?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87543 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Had HRC won, Garland was a shoe-in.


Garland was Obama’s “moderate” compromise candidate.

As bad as he is, had HRC won, it would’ve been somebody one helluva lot more radical than Garland.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4649 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:51 pm to
Thomas to Garland: This is why you were blocked from SCOTUS.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
8987 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 4:24 pm to
Consider this.

The biggest Karen in Congress (Schumer) threatens the Justices, while the hoard releases their addresses on the net. Over Roe v Wade

Now the same Karen throws a fit on the immunity decision.

I would not be surprised to see a Orthodox Special Operations Team ,in beards funny black hats, land and solve one of NYC’s problems.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2326 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 4:31 pm to
So how long until Cannon tosses the whole thing…with predjudice?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21345 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

quote:
Now it’s clear they can’t.

A lone concurrence does not establish this.

This case could go to the court down the road and end up 8-1, with Thomas being the only dissent.

My argument has always been based in actual rulings on this issue. Thomas's concurrence is not a ruling.


As I remember your basic argument in the recent thread was basically that appointment of special council has been happening for years. Just because this is something that has been occurring also doesn't establish it as law.
To establish a special council as a matter of law it must be approved by Congress as stated by the Constitution.
Posted by tigerfan 64
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Member since Sep 2016
6131 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 10:21 am to
quote:

That's not what I said at all. 

You specifically quoted the times previous SC appointments were challenged and the failures of those challenges and then opined why any challenge to Smiths appointment would also fail.
Posted by Datbawwwww
Member since Oct 2023
468 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 11:15 am to
I hear what you are saying. But it’s important that you look at the past few weeks of USSC verdicts, after the security fence was put up.there are multiple direct rulings, and some overt guidance for districts courts to follow. Just a few off the top of mind, Chevron, FDA, J-6, UNANIMOUS jury verdicts, on top of the immunity ruling. The third branch of government is pushing back, they are fed up with congress not doing their jobs, and the executive branch overstepping their authority. We are blessed to have three equal powers that govern our society.
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