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re: This SPLC Thing is a Bigger Deal Than Most Realize

Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:40 pm to
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Next we will learn that the SPLC had "undercover informants" paying for the 9-11 highjackers flight lessons.


And J6...
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Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:40 pm to
This is where the real world and SFP world diverge.
This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:40 pm to
Under the direction of SPLC F37 made racist remarks.

Under the direction.

Yummy.

Not snitches

Actions.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47562 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:41 pm to
misled them how? If there's nothing wrong with SPLC paying "informants" than how were the donors defrauded?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110898 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:42 pm to
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I think we'd need some accounting evidence


Sure, which at this point we have as much of as we do of any of these people actually just "snitching" on anything.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:42 pm to
That’s his argument. The group wasn’t supported by the SLPC. Only the individual was.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476467 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

Under the direction of SPLC F37 made racist remarks.




Again, that's all you got?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

misled them how?


That is a good question.

quote:

If there's nothing wrong with SPLC paying "informants" than how were the donors defrauded?

Why this part of the case is much weaker than the bank part.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47562 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:44 pm to
The "individual" being a key organizer and rally planner within the group. But he needs to hear it from someone other than Todd Blanche or else it cant be true.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476467 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

That’s his argument. The group wasn’t supported by the SLPC. Only the individual was.

No different argument. What you said is about the allegations of "funding" the groups (which isn't alleged in the indictment)

The exchange to which you replied was about the government's allegations that SPLC defrauded its donors by using these snitches.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:44 pm to
So not snitches but actionable actors for that cash

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47562 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:44 pm to
do you ever answer a question?
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:44 pm to
That doesn’t align with the indictment

My analogy aligns with the indictment


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476467 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:45 pm to
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do you ever answer a question?

You're poking holes in the government's case.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47562 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:45 pm to
but you told us that there's nothing wrong with using snitches.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:45 pm to
The point of the case is to publicly pants the SLPC. Sophistry aside, that has already happened.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476467 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

That doesn’t align with the indictment

How?

You have an organization

You have an individual of that organization

You have the SPLC paying the individual to get information (and in one case, steal) from the organization

Your analogy involved a direct relationship/contracting between SPLC (the consumer) and the racial group (Walmart). That isn't alleged.

*ETA: one of the example is literally my example, mind you.
This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 2:48 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476467 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

The point of the case is to publicly pants the SLPC.

I agree.

But in doing so, a lot of dishonesty flooded online and cable news.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47562 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:48 pm to
its ironic that he used a mob analogy earlier to defend "paying snitches". Many top mobsters were brought to justice on lesser charges so that stronger cases could be tried.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138752 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:48 pm to
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You're making a very large assumption in this context.
I was assuming nothing. It was a personal statement.
I've supervised scores of people in a high stakes world over the years. Supervision absolutely means care applied under my direction ... and my responsibility. I've also directed too many others to count who were not under my supervision.

What context is it, as defined in the materials you are referencing, that would alter those meanings?
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