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re: This SPLC Thing is a Bigger Deal Than Most Realize

Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:09 pm to
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I've already told you if the best evidence of "Direction" you have in about a decade of allegations is a guy driving some people to UTR, this is a weak argument.



It only has to be strong enough to prove a connection to the fraudulent payments.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:10 pm to
None a simple question?

You play too many games Housemate
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:11 pm to
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SPLC funded the organizations


They wired millions of dollars to them
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:11 pm to
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It only has to be strong enough to prove a connection to the fraudulent payments.

The fraud part will be interesting. They'll have to do what YA's asking for and show their work, so to speak. I imagine they'll line up a bunch of donors who will testify this is fine with them, etc.

The bank stuff is much tougher.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:12 pm to
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They wired millions of dollars to them

Not correct. *based on what evidence we have so far.

They sent millions to individuals snitching. That's all the indictment says.

You've yet to establish any evidence of how much went to the organizations.
This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:13 pm to
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I imagine they'll line up a bunch of donors who will testify this is fine with them, etc.


I hope this happens
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:13 pm to
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I hope this happens

The work product will be much more important.

Especially if they can show association with law enforcement.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:15 pm to
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Especially if they can show association with law enforcement.


Considering the last two admins supposedly investigated them, I wonder how hard that will be.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:17 pm to
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SPLC paid over $270,000, to a leader in the 2017 Charlottesville "Unite the Right" rally.


Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:18 pm to
I did not have the OKC bombing on my SPLC bingo card:

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This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 2:35 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:19 pm to
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Considering the last two admins supposedly investigated them, I wonder how hard that will be.


They were in partnership with the feds until October 2025, apparently

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“The Southern Poverty Law Center long ago abandoned civil rights work and turned into a partisan smear machine,” FBI Director Kash Patel wrote on X. “Their so-called ‘hate map’ has been used to defame mainstream Americans and even inspired violence. That disgraceful record makes them unfit for any FBI partnership.”


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“For decades, we have shared data and analysis with the public to protect civil rights and hold extremists accountable,” the SPLC said in a statement. “We remain committed to exposing hate and extremism as we work to equip communities with knowledge and defend the rights and safety of marginalized people.”


Who knows what they were doing on the state level, too.

Like I said, they're going to have to show their work here.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:21 pm to
Yeah they paid the money to an individual. No allegations of that money flowing to a group, or that he was involved in anything other than an "online chat group".
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:21 pm to
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Charlottesville was an op/inorganic

SPLC funded the organizations

SPLC directed fake racial incidents


The second one doesn't seem any more "fantastically" speculative based solely on this indictment than saying all they were doing was "paying for snitches" - especially absent any concrete ideas or evidence of what was possibly "snitched."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:22 pm to
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The U.S. Department of Justice released FBI documents indicating that the Southern Poverty Law Center engaged in undercover surveillance of Oklahoma militia groups in 1995 before and after the bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal Building. The local FBI team, which should have obtained a warrant to dispatch real FBI agents, criminally conspired with SPLC agents to get around Attorney General Janet Reno’s legal limitations on domestic spying. Because the conspiracy was criminal, the espionage was illegal.


Partnership exhibit 1
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:22 pm to
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Especially if they can show association with law enforcement


Blanche has already said that they were not relaying any information to law enforcement.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:24 pm to
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Partnership exhibit 1


Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:24 pm to
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Yeah they paid the money to an individual. No allegations of that money flowing to a group, or that he was involved in anything other than an "online chat group".


How much you reckon it costs to "run" one of these groups?
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:25 pm to
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Partnership exhibit 1


What sort of stupid fricking courtroom do you expect something from 1995 to be relevant to this case?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:25 pm to
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Blanche has already said that they were not relaying any information to law enforcement.

Yes and as has been shown, he may have fibbed

Plus "law enforcement" is more than just the feds
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:26 pm to
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What sort of stupid fricking courtroom do you expect something from 1995 to be relevant to this case?


If the SPLC can show this same behavior as far as 1995, with a consistent output since, it's going to be a lot harder to claim it was fraud.
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