re: This poll scares me.....capitalists MUST somehow gain them back. They are the future

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Honest question.....what in the frick happened that caused this huge age divide?

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You serious?

It’s pretty simple: the myth of pure capitalism and trickle-down ( ) only works if the population is uneducated and uninformed—a dumb and ignorant populace is pliable and easily manipulated. This was a lot easier to do pre-internet, as media/political gatekeepers had real power to set the agenda of public discourse/general knowledge and frame events in ways that benefitted their desired ends. Now, information has been democratized (to an extent—it’s becoming consolidated again via FAANG, but it’s better still than before), and it’s pretty easy for the average citizen to find data which refute the bullshite you guys spew (bootstrapping, etc) to keep them docile.

Couple that with the fact that we’ve essentially created a generation (or two) of indentured servants, who went to college with a proverbial gun to their head by their parents, promising that was the only route to wealth, and instead these young(-ish) people are now struggling (and often failing) to just stay afloat, in a sea of overwhelming and crushing debt.

Now you have a pissed off and better-informed public who want a change. I honestly don’t know what world you guys live in where you don’t see this, or think you can pretend it’s not there. The genie is out of the bottle. It’s over.

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Couple that with the fact that we’ve essentially created a generation (or two) of indentured servants, who went to college with a proverbial gun to their head by their parents, promising that was the only route to wealth, and instead these young(-ish) people are now struggling (and often failing) to just stay afloat, in a sea of overwhelming and crushing debt. 

Now you have a pissed off and better-informed public who want a change. I honestly don’t know what world you guys live in where you don’t see this, or think you can pretend it’s not there. The genie is out of the bottle. It’s over.

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MI gets it.

The piece TD misses is that Trump's nationalism, while adorable, fails to control international companies.
The world trade org is going to rule the world.

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Controlling international companies" is a fricking repulsive idea.

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And thus, and so ...

WTO will rule the world.

You anti globalists are Luddites.

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That’s factually incorrect

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25 year olds now are more informed than 25 year olds 40 years ago.

This generation hasn’t hit its peak earning years yet. They’ll be singing a different tune when their effective tax rates double (or more) to pay for programs from which they largely won’t benefit much (especially free university).

Honestly, I’m not that worried about it: the rhetoric was a lot more strident fifty years ago than it is now. Generations grow up.

Edit to add: What I think is much more likely to happen is inter-generational political conflict wherein the youngsters start trying to re-allocate public monies towards their pet programs and away from Medicare and Social Security (which are so, so, so very expensive). It’d take a 3 - 5% raise in the effective rates across all tax brackets just to close the current deficit, much less pay for things like Medicare for All, free university, stringent green regulations, etc., etc.

They’ll get into power and realize that there’s not enough taxable income and wealth in the “wealthy” brackets to pay for these programs. They’ll be forced to raise taxes quite a bit on the middle and working classes to pay for them (like some of the Europeans do). They’ll also cut programs for older people to re-allocate for M4A or whatever. That’ll piss a lot of voters off and then they’ll be back out on their asses.

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Where is the 34-55 group. We Xers are always left out.

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Exactly...we are the ones carrying the burden and load of the country now and we are always ignored.

Don’t worry,13-17 is about 10%.

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Are you really going to argue that the internet hasn't completely transformed what "informed" is? 25 year olds now can go online and see up to date info on nearly any topic they want.

I don't think you've really thought your position through that well.

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If you think the average 25 year old uses the internet to inform themselves then you need to rethink your position. The UNDERSTANDING of basic issues is less today than it was 20 years ago. People today are just informed enough to be dangerous. I’d rather them be less informed to be honest. Most people can’t be trusted with knowledge of the actual world.

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I’d rather them be less informed to be honest.

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Of course you do, you vote republican.

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Are you really going to argue that the internet hasn't completely transformed what "informed" is?

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It's certainly expanded the misinformed.

Like people who cannot define socialism or communism.