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Posted on 1/14/23 at 2:29 pm to GumboPot
quote:
This one simple trick would substantially improve health in the United States.
Change our demographics to be like Finland
Posted on 1/14/23 at 2:55 pm to GumboPot
[img]This one simple trick would substantially improve health in the United States.[/img]
So would social media.
So would social media.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 3:00 pm to GumboPot
I'd say only allow a very small set of items to even be eligible.
Milk, eggs, rice, bread, peanut butter, vegetables, fruit, certain cereals, ground beef, fish, etc. No steaks, no racks of ribs, no sodas, no exotic seafood, no snack foods or shiat with little meaningful caloric value.
So frustrating to see a cart full of food for a bar-b-que being paid for with gubment money. Bitch, get a job.
Milk, eggs, rice, bread, peanut butter, vegetables, fruit, certain cereals, ground beef, fish, etc. No steaks, no racks of ribs, no sodas, no exotic seafood, no snack foods or shiat with little meaningful caloric value.
So frustrating to see a cart full of food for a bar-b-que being paid for with gubment money. Bitch, get a job.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 3:10 pm to The Boat
quote:
Change our demographics to be like Finland
Finnish and Swedish women love foreign men because too many men in these two countries are pussies. In the end, they'll be "conquered."
Posted on 1/14/23 at 3:18 pm to GumboPot
Many poor neighborhoods are "food deserts" where there are no quality, full-service grocery stores that sell healthy foods.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 3:18 pm to GumboPot
Soy Derivatives
Hidden in foods and drinks
OLIVE OIL from other countries (see my olive oil blog post)
Eggs (if you are sensitive to soybean oil, you will likely react to non grass-fed chicken eggs)
chicken (most on the market are soy-fed. Choose organic and call company if you're sensitive to soybean oil)
beef (Same rule applies. If you are sensitive to soybean oil or natural flavors you will likely react to soy-fed beef.)
FISH (choose wild-caught ONLY. Farm-raised fish are almost always fed soy)
gum Arabic
tocopherol acetate (vitamin E)
bulking agent
carob
citric acid
emulsifier
guar gum (usually contains about 10% soy protein and is also a close cousin of soybeans)
hydrolyzed vegetable protein (HVP)
lecithin/soy lecithin
miso
magnesium stearate (used in many medicines..must call company)
USDA Organic Milk (cows are usually fed soy, grains, peas, etc.--go for grass-fed if you're sensitive to soybean oil you will likely be sensitive to milk that's fed with soy)
MSG (Monosodium Glutamate)
natural flavors
xanthan gum (some is grown on soy)
protein
protein extender
soy flour
soy nuts
soy panthenol
soy protein
soy protein isolate or concentrate
soy sauce
soybean
soybean oil
stabilizer
starch
stearic acid (used as binder in vitamins and in many lotions, creams, cosmetics)
textured vegetable protein (TVP)
thickener
vegetable broth
vegetable gum
vegetable starch
tofu
----------------------------------------------
Hidden soy derivatives in lotions, creams, bath products, household products, lawn and auto etc....
Vitamin E (may likely be derived from soy. Call manufacturer to be sure)
PEG-10 soya sterol
glycerin (usually made from soybean oil. call manufacturer to find out)
glycerine
Soy sterol
Soy protein
Soy protein concentrate
Proteins
Soybean protein
Soy acid
Soy acid;
Acids, soy;
Fatty acids, soya
PEG-16 soy sterol
PEG-75 soy glycerides
Stearic Acid
Soybean sterol
Soy glyceride, hydrogenated
Soybean oil, maleated
PEG-5 soy sterol
Alkyd resin solution
Soya oil, phthalic anhydride, pentaerythritol polymer;
Soybean oil, polymer with pentaerythritol and phthalic anhydride;
1,2-Benzenedicarboxylic anhydride, pentaerythritol, soybean oil
polymer;
Pentaerythritol, phthalic anhydride, soybean oil polymer
Soy protein, hydrolyzed
Hydrolyzed soy protein;
Soy protein, hydrolyzed;
Protein hydrolyzates, soya
Quaternary ammonium salts
Quaternary ammonium compounds, ethyldimethylsoya alkyl, Et
Soyethyldimonium ethosulfate;
Dimethylethylsoyaammonium ethosulfate
Vegetable Oil
Lecithin
Lecithins
Lecithine
Soybean lecithin
Soybean oil blend
Soybean oil
Extract of soy
Oils, soybean;
Soy germ extract;
Soya oil;
Soybean Oil [USAN]
Alkyd resin
Linseed oil, polymer with pentaerythritol, phthalic anhydride,
oil, styrene and vinyltoluene
Soybean meal
Soyaethyl morpholinium ethosulfate
Morpholinium compounds
N-ethyl-N-soya alkyl
ethyl sulfates
N-Soya-N-ethyl morpholinium ethosulfate
Soyatrimonium chloride
N-(Soya alkyl)-N,N,N-trimethyl ammonium chloride
Quaternary ammonium compounds
trimethylsoya
alkyl chlorides
Quaternium-9
Soya trimethyl ammonium chloride
Soy Derivatives List
Hidden in foods and drinks
OLIVE OIL from other countries (see my olive oil blog post)
Eggs (if you are sensitive to soybean oil, you will likely react to non grass-fed chicken eggs)
chicken (most on the market are soy-fed. Choose organic and call company if you're sensitive to soybean oil)
beef (Same rule applies. If you are sensitive to soybean oil or natural flavors you will likely react to soy-fed beef.)
FISH (choose wild-caught ONLY. Farm-raised fish are almost always fed soy)
gum Arabic
tocopherol acetate (vitamin E)
bulking agent
carob
citric acid
emulsifier
guar gum (usually contains about 10% soy protein and is also a close cousin of soybeans)
hydrolyzed vegetable protein (HVP)
lecithin/soy lecithin
miso
magnesium stearate (used in many medicines..must call company)
USDA Organic Milk (cows are usually fed soy, grains, peas, etc.--go for grass-fed if you're sensitive to soybean oil you will likely be sensitive to milk that's fed with soy)
MSG (Monosodium Glutamate)
natural flavors
xanthan gum (some is grown on soy)
protein
protein extender
soy flour
soy nuts
soy panthenol
soy protein
soy protein isolate or concentrate
soy sauce
soybean
soybean oil
stabilizer
starch
stearic acid (used as binder in vitamins and in many lotions, creams, cosmetics)
textured vegetable protein (TVP)
thickener
vegetable broth
vegetable gum
vegetable starch
tofu
----------------------------------------------
Hidden soy derivatives in lotions, creams, bath products, household products, lawn and auto etc....
Vitamin E (may likely be derived from soy. Call manufacturer to be sure)
PEG-10 soya sterol
glycerin (usually made from soybean oil. call manufacturer to find out)
glycerine
Soy sterol
Soy protein
Soy protein concentrate
Proteins
Soybean protein
Soy acid
Soy acid;
Acids, soy;
Fatty acids, soya
PEG-16 soy sterol
PEG-75 soy glycerides
Stearic Acid
Soybean sterol
Soy glyceride, hydrogenated
Soybean oil, maleated
PEG-5 soy sterol
Alkyd resin solution
Soya oil, phthalic anhydride, pentaerythritol polymer;
Soybean oil, polymer with pentaerythritol and phthalic anhydride;
1,2-Benzenedicarboxylic anhydride, pentaerythritol, soybean oil
polymer;
Pentaerythritol, phthalic anhydride, soybean oil polymer
Soy protein, hydrolyzed
Hydrolyzed soy protein;
Soy protein, hydrolyzed;
Protein hydrolyzates, soya
Quaternary ammonium salts
Quaternary ammonium compounds, ethyldimethylsoya alkyl, Et
Soyethyldimonium ethosulfate;
Dimethylethylsoyaammonium ethosulfate
Vegetable Oil
Lecithin
Lecithins
Lecithine
Soybean lecithin
Soybean oil blend
Soybean oil
Extract of soy
Oils, soybean;
Soy germ extract;
Soya oil;
Soybean Oil [USAN]
Alkyd resin
Linseed oil, polymer with pentaerythritol, phthalic anhydride,
oil, styrene and vinyltoluene
Soybean meal
Soyaethyl morpholinium ethosulfate
Morpholinium compounds
N-ethyl-N-soya alkyl
ethyl sulfates
N-Soya-N-ethyl morpholinium ethosulfate
Soyatrimonium chloride
N-(Soya alkyl)-N,N,N-trimethyl ammonium chloride
Quaternary ammonium compounds
trimethylsoya
alkyl chlorides
Quaternium-9
Soya trimethyl ammonium chloride
Soy Derivatives List
Posted on 1/14/23 at 3:19 pm to blueagateblues
quote:I wonder why...
Many poor neighborhoods are "food deserts" where there are no quality, full-service grocery stores that sell healthy foods.
Guess they'll have to take a bus or subway, eh?
Posted on 1/14/23 at 3:20 pm to GeauxldenGuy
quote:
Drink less alcohol
quote:
I’ll be damned
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 1/14/23 at 3:23 pm to blueagateblues
quote:
Many poor neighborhoods are "food deserts" where there are no quality, full-service grocery stores that sell healthy foods.
I'll bite. Annnnd whyyyyy are there no quality grocery stores there?
Serious question. Why does being poor in certain cultures have to equal:
robbing stores blind
leaving trash everywhere
graffiti
stealing from your neighbors
Having more babies
etc
But in other cultures, it just means figuring out how to get by with less?
Posted on 1/14/23 at 3:24 pm to concrete_tiger
quote:
I'd say only allow a very small set of items to even be eligible.
Back in the day, this was pretty much the case. Funny, generations survived prior to food stamps. Gubment cheese and stuff like that helped sustain them.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 3:38 pm to jonnyanony
quote:
Thus, fructose and ethanol are analogous qualitatively in terms of hepatic metabolism. In small doses, neither will overwhelm hepatic mitochondrial capacity. However, as Paracelsus stated, “The dose determines the poison.” In a substrate overload/hypercaloric paradigm, excess energy substrate conversion to acetyl-CoA without any insulin regulation and with limited diversion to nontoxic intermediaries such as glycogen will occur. Both fructose and ethanol uniquely drive DNL, generating intrahepatic lipid, inflammation, and insulin resistance. Through the phenomena of enhanced DNL, JNK-1 activation, and hepatic insulin resistance, the hepatic metabolic profile of fructose is analogous to that of ethanol. Furthermore, fructose and ethanol are also analogous quantitatively. Table 1 demonstrates the hepatic burden of a can of beer vs. a can of soda. Both contain 150 kcal per 12-oz (355-mL) can (59). Both contain a concomitant glucose load combined with either the ethanol load (beer) or the fructose load (soda). The first-pass effect of ethanol in the stomach and intestine removes 10% of the ethanol. In the case of beer (3.6% ethanol and 6.6% maltose, a glucose disaccharide), ~92 kcal reach the liver, whereas for soda, 90 kcal reach the liver. Indeed, the quantitative metabolic demand on the liver from beer and soda are analogous as well (59).
Note this is just referring to metabolism in the liver.
LINK
Sorry for the late reply. Been busy.
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 1/14/23 at 3:41 pm to Zach
quote:
I grew up in poverty before food stamps. It was very easy to stay thin.
"You saw no fat people during the Depression." My dad always tells me this when he sees a fat panhandler who claims to be hungry.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 3:42 pm to jonnyanony
quote:
Not giving up olive oil or peanut oil. Sorry.
Me either.
First olive oil is a very healthy oil. Second peanut oil is probably the healthiest seed oil because it’s my understanding hydrocarbon solvents are not needed to extract the peanut oil like other seed oils. Just pressure and heat.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 4:17 pm to GumboPot
That still does not show 90% conversion to fat.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 4:23 pm to ehidal1
I don’t think we should ban sweets, just the synthetic products widely used to make them now. You can make sweets without HFCS, etc… cake existed prior to these poisons.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 4:28 pm to concrete_tiger
quote:
robbing stores blind
This is the correct answer. We know it would be profitable (food stamps) but the theft makes it impossible.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 5:04 pm to GumboPot
When you talk about banning things, how exactly is that conservative?
We've truly gone full circle when you're advocating for more government regulation, not less regulation.
People should make their own choices on everything.
We've truly gone full circle when you're advocating for more government regulation, not less regulation.
People should make their own choices on everything.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 5:48 pm to jonnyanony
quote:
Not giving up olive oil or peanut oil. Sorry.
Olive oil isn’t a vegetable oil and is one of the healthiest options out there.
Peanut oil isn’t the best for you however, but beats crisco or some
other products.
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 1/14/23 at 5:55 pm to GumboPot
quote:
Ban the purchase of all processed foods that contain fructose or high fructose corn syrup via food stamps.
I am for that since I am HFCS intolerant. That stuff screws up my gut and gives me the shits. Took me several years to figure it out. Soft Drinks and other presweetened beverages are the major vector in our diet for fructose.
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