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This is why Trump just has to win. Frank Luntz related.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:30 pm
Pray hard people that Trump wins. Even you atheists out there. One prayer isn't going to hurt you.
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Republican pollster Frank Luntz told Fox News’ Bret Baier on Thursday night, that his "profession is done" if President Trump wins re-election come Nov. 3, and proves the national polls wrong yet again.
“I hate to acknowledge it, because that's my industry — at least partially — but the public will have no faith. No confidence. Right now, the biggest issue is the trust deficit,” Luntz said in response to Baier asking how pollsters will fare if they are wrong in predicting the 2020 presidential election. “Pollsters did not do a good job in 2016. So, if Donald Trump surprises people, if Joe Biden had a 5- or 6-point lead, my profession is done."
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Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:31 pm to Homesick Tiger
Some are incompetent, some are stubborn, some are corrupt
Only the media cares about public polls
Only the media cares about public polls
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:32 pm to Homesick Tiger
Pollsters should be blaming the left for this.
Making people believe they will be targeted for showing support for Trump makes it hard to get accurate polling because people won’t just admit that to a stranger.
Making people believe they will be targeted for showing support for Trump makes it hard to get accurate polling because people won’t just admit that to a stranger.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:32 pm to Homesick Tiger
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So, if Donald Trump surprises people, if Joe Biden had a 5- or 6-point lead, my profession is done."
Correct.
I said this in another thread. This election will be the killshot for the pollsters.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:33 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Pray hard people that Trump wins.
Seriously. Everyone needs to set aside a few minutes everyday to pray for Trump until the result of the election is final. It ain't over til it's over.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:33 pm to Homesick Tiger
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So, if Donald Trump surprises people, if Joe Biden had a 5- or 6-point lead, my profession is done."
Not really. There will always be corporate establishment media willing to pay for push polls and a large swath of dumb arse Americans that believe them.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:34 pm to Homesick Tiger
Isn't he in the biden emails?
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:35 pm to Homesick Tiger
Luntz's profession has been done for years.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:38 pm to Homesick Tiger
Sorry Frank, but I’m old enough to remember when you called it for Hillary on Election Day in 2016. Would love to know any other profession where you can consistently be wrong and keep your job.
Maybe he could become an NFL referee
Maybe he could become an NFL referee
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:40 pm to Eat Your Crow
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Correct.
I said this in another thread. This election will be the killshot for the pollsters.
Typically when someone does a poor job, you don’t hire them again, and instead move on to find someone who will do the job better.
If a poll says Trump is trailing by 7 points and he wins, they get fired, and it’s not hard to look up their accuracy historically.
The free market should correct the issue, unless the polls are intentionally slanted. Which appears to be part of the problem that’s not been acknowledged.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:42 pm to Homesick Tiger
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that his "profession is done" if President Trump wins re-election come Nov. 3, and proves the national polls wrong yet again.
Maybe they should 1) not lie, 2) realize that there are a lot of voters lying to them and 3) not lie.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:45 pm to Homesick Tiger
I truly believe some of these “polls” aren’t even actually polling people, they’re just making shite up. They’re too detached from reality. Hell, Biden’s camp even admitted the polls were wrong because they thought it would affect voter turnout.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:47 pm to Junky
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Isn't he in the biden emails?
Yeah.
That jackwagon asked his followers if they'd rather hear about the China Flu or substantive subjects during the debate and they all ignored him.
Instead, they all asked him about his emails with Biden.
All his followers got were crickets.
He's a fig.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:51 pm to Homesick Tiger
this is what happens when you demonize half the country and declare them nazis. Whoever heard of an incumbent president having a very large and very loyal underground base of support? We are out here by the millions and you will never be able to poll us.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:52 pm to Homesick Tiger
Good. Polling for the public is used as propaganda to manipulate option. It’s why so many people lie to pollsters. It’s a scam and everyone knows it.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:57 pm to BobBoucher
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Typically when someone does a poor job, you don’t hire them again, and instead move on to find someone who will do the job better.
If a poll says Trump is trailing by 7 points and he wins, they get fired, and it’s not hard to look up their accuracy historically.
The free market should correct the issue, unless the polls are intentionally slanted. Which appears to be part of the problem that’s not been acknowledged.
Trump won Nebraska by 25 points in 2016. According the 538, the average polling has Trump up 7 in Nebraska.
Trump won Texas by 9 points in 2016. He's going to win it by 7-8 points again this year. According to 538, the average polling has Trump up 0.5% in Texas.
Trump won Iowa by 10 points in 2016. He's going to win it by almost the same amount this year. According to 538, the average polling has Biden up 1.3% in Iowa.
Trump won Alaska by 15 points in 2016. He's going to win it by the same amount or more in 2020. According to 538, the average polling has Trump up less than 6 points.
Trump won Arkansas by 27 points in 2016. Up until the beginning of October, Trump was up 3%, according to 538 average polling. >
And this goes on and on and on and on and on. There might not be a single state that Trump doesn't outperform the polls.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:04 pm to Eat Your Crow
Over sampling never trumper Republicans will skew results
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:09 pm to TigahJay
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Would love to know any other profession where you can consistently be wrong and keep your job.
TV meteorologists come to mind. Also economists. Not to mention Angel Hernandez and Joe West.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:13 pm to Homesick Tiger
quote:Will have?
but the public will have no faith. No confidence. Right now, the biggest issue is the trust deficit,” Luntz said
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