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Lobo Apple Sauce
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re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown

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David Allen Coe:
"Notwithstanding evidence of TSA and AA hires, civil servants are born into the system generation after generation, with not being so called "plebeians", hence beating out thousands of applicants for the appointment in the first place; so, like shining armour knights, they're well funded for the positions."


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MizzouBS
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re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
People without a college degree a majority of the time make less money.

Middle class employees without a college education are mainly Trump voters.

Most of these employees will make much less than most us with degrees. My family could go probably go 4 to 5 months without changing our lifestyle and then we would have to dip into our 401k’s.

Most middle class families can’t. Most of the people without a college degree and veterans will fit in this category.
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93and99
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Member since Dec 2018
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re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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Most middle class families can’t. Most of the people without a college degree and veterans will fit in this category.



Ok , were you concerned about the coal miners that Obama put out of work because of his regulations ?


TennesseeFan25
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Member since May 2016
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re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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There we have it. Entitlement. That is what Government Jobs and Employees comes down to


They are going to work every day, yet not getting the paycheck they are entitled for that.

What is hard to understand about that sentence?


Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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But the employees don't continue working after they're laid off do they dumb ass?

And they also don't get paid for not working once they're laid off.


TennesseeFan25
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re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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And they also don't get paid for not working once they're laid off.


So unemployment benefits aren't a thing in this country any longer?

Is being required to go to work, while not getting paid the same as being laid off?

Coast Guard members are put in some of the highest cost of living areas, along the coast, across the country to meet the needs of the Coast Guard. Not areas they choose, but are assigned to. They have service commitments that don't allow them to go find another job, so they continue to work, without pay. Some financial institutions are providing aid, but not guaranteed and several requirements must be met.



9th life
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Boringham
Member since Sep 2009
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re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
So just go get jobs in the private sector. When was the last time we added 800k jobs in a month?

Genuinely asking, not even factoring pay/experience or education: are there even enough jobs to sustain this many people actively looking for new employment?
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Centinel
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South Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
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re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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Coast Guard members are put in some of the highest cost of living areas, along the coast, across the country to meet the needs of the Coast Guard. Not areas they choose, but are assigned to. They have service commitments that don't allow them to go find another job, so they continue to work, without pay. Some financial institutions are providing aid, but not guaranteed and several requirements must be met.





It's funny that people keep mentioning the Coast Guard in all this. Right after a sob story article was posted about Coast Guard families.

And on that note, there are plenty of programs to help military families make it through these shutdowns. Like I've posted elsewhere, it was a huge command focus during the 2013 shutdown when I was active duty, and I'm sure the same thing is happening now. The military will be fine.



boogiewoogie1978
Arkansas Fan
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
8458 posts

re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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There we have it. Entitlement. That is what Government Jobs and Employees comes down to.

This is fricking pathetic. Government workers are an absolute embarrassment.

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TennesseeFan25
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re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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It's funny that people keep mentioning the Coast Guard in all this. Right after a sob story article was posted about Coast Guard families.


I'm mentioning the Coast Guard because I am married to Coast Guard.

I am mentioning the Coast Guard, because they are deemed essential and all still working. I agree and have issues with civilians being able to sit at home and then get paid for all of this on the back end. There are people that are actually having negative impacts though.

My wife works with another Chief, so later in his career, that has child support to pay for 4 children, all while stationed in California, so California housing, taxes, and prices. He's rightfully terrified. Again, someone later in their career and established enough. There are young members that are hit even harder, having just started out.

The big difference that are you so blindly missing is the Coast Guard is such a small subset, that's why this is even continuing now. If DoD was impacted as well there would certainly be that level of support, and outrage if not. Because this is such a small segment though that's why there is less aid, and also more of you douchebags able to come here posting saying you don't even feel it, it doesn't matter to you, shut it down for 6 years!
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SoulGlo
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Member since Dec 2011
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re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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In the private sector, when a company stops making money, and starts losing money, they start cutting back, making layoffs.

Right. But the employees don't continue working after they're laid off do they dumb ass?


The government workers barely work anyway. Redundancy is the name of the game in the federal workplace. What's your point?

When the government employees unionize and fight, their adversary is US. WE are their enemy in any dispute. frick them. Let them whine.


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Music_City_Tiger
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Member since Feb 2018
407 posts

re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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Right. But the employees don't continue working after they're laid off do they dumb ass?


Any Fed Gov worker that doesn't have a 6-12 month emergency fund is a moron.


DevilDogTiger
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re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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And what happens when ATC and TSA employees start quitting in droves?

ATCers are not quitting


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boogiewoogie1978
Arkansas Fan
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
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re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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Any Fed Gov worker that doesn't have a 6-12 month emergency fund is a moron.

What about ones that have been working for 2 months?
Recently transferred and paying for moving expenses?
Just bought a new home?
Just had a baby?

You are painting with a broad brush there.


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Centinel
Alabama Fan
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
16335 posts

re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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I am mentioning the Coast Guard, because they are deemed essential and all still working.


Are you under the assumption the rest of the military is not also working? Honest question.



MisslePig
Arkansas Fan
Member since Jul 2018
497 posts

re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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But the employees don't continue working after they're laid off do they dumb ass?


I didn't realize the gov't employees were being forced to work...that they had no other options...wow, I think there's a term for that.


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tarzana
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re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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employees don't continue working

Employees shouldn't report to work if they're not being paid. There's such a law as the FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT that requires payment for working hours accumulated. That's as true for public sector employees as it is for the private sector.


Jake_LaMotta
Alabama Fan
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
4599 posts

re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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They are going to work every day, yet not getting the paycheck they are entitled for that.

What is hard to understand about that sentence?


They are going to be paid for their work. Government workers are completely clueless to how the rest of America has it when it comes to employment.


brian_wilson
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts

re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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Right. But the employees don't continue working after they're laid off do they dumb ass?


Exactly.

I sat next to a person on a plane that works in IT for DHS. They are essential and working but not getting paid. He said there are a bunch of cloud contracts for gov't services that are about to expire due to non payment. He said this includes ones used at the border to process entries. WHoooooohoooooooo.

eta: he was annoyed to in that he had to pay for his airfare/hotel until the gov't was back up.
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Jake_LaMotta
Alabama Fan
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
4599 posts

re: This is why there is no sympathy for a fedgov shutdown
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So just go get jobs in the private sector.


That is what the majority of Americans do. You realize that right?


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