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re: This is probably a dumb question, but why is Neo-Nazism considered right wing?

Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:47 pm to
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Hitler’s core value was exactly the opposite of the core value of the American left


bullshite.

Both were collectivists. Both want to control the economy.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:49 pm to
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Good God, you can’t seriously believe that. Hitler’s core value was exactly the opposite of the core value of the American left. Hitler’s was that his German race was the Master Race and should rule the world. The American left’s is multiculturalism.


Substitute the word Jew for white in Critical Race theory and it sounds a lot like Nazi racial rhetoric
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:51 pm to
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Yes, FDR and his henchmen commanded the economy in a similar fashion


Well, yes but not really. Lots of rationing and banning of certain products being produced. (new cars as an example)

However, although he and his minions definitely WANTED a 100% command economy, they were backed off that by Bill Knudsen who convinced them that telling industry what the government wanted and how much and then letting industry go to work worked much better.

Which gave us Detroit becoming the arsenal of democracy.

FDR and his clowns wanted the war materials produced for basically cost. Well, no one was going to bust their arse for that. Using Knudsen's plan, allowing the manufacturers to produce what best fit them at a profit created an explosion of production along with continuously dropping expenses. Meaning a Sherman tank produced in 1944 cost far less than one produced in 1941.

The book Freedom's Forge is pretty decent about this period in history.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:53 pm to
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Well, yes but not really. Lots of rationing and banning of certain products being produced. (new cars as an example)


The government commanded production from heavy industry.

FDR wasn't even the worst of presidents though it took decade to recover. Wilson fricked up the country worse and his bullshite still hurts.

This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:54 pm to
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Substitute the word Jew for white in Critical Race theory and it sounds a lot like Nazi racial rhetoric

Well, it doesn’t, but you have a vague point. Hitler committed genocide against another race to aid his race. The left today wants to help a different race because they think their race has been treating that other race unfairly. Whatever you think of today’s leftists’ views on race (I think they are juvenile and mistaken) you can’t equate these two things.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:55 pm to
Deflection and projection. If you can make the people think that everything you stand for is good and that everything the other side stands for is bad you’ve won the messaging battle. Democrats know they are the party of racism and bigotry so they try to cast that onto the Republican side. Who literally freed the slaves by the way.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:55 pm to
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The government commanded production from heavy industry.





For the most part they told industry what they wanted. The various industries produced what the government would pay for.

No industry was forced to take a contract.

Read the book. I'm not arguing with you about it as it's obvious from that quick quote you have no interest in being informed.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 12:58 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:55 pm to
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Substitute the word Jew for white in Critical Race theory and it sounds a lot like Nazi racial rhetoric


Not in actuality.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296222 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:56 pm to
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For the most part the told industry what the wanted.


If you can make that legible, I'll comment.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296222 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:57 pm to
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Not in actuality.


Yes, your fairy tales are better than Hitlers.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:58 pm to
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If you can make that legible, I'll comment.



If you suck my dick I'll call you gay.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78237 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:58 pm to
Lol no, but keep telling yourself ghost stories.l about CRT.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15431 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:59 pm to
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The left today wants to help a different race because they think their race has been treating that other race unfairly.


The prevailing thought of Nazism was that Jews had unfairly undermined Germany and the German people. That isn’t much different than what CRT peddles.

The end result is the same. One group gets scapegoated for the problems of the other group!nation. It hasn’t led to genocide (yet) but it has certainly led to violence and violent rhetoric towards whites being accepted.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296222 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:00 pm to
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If you suck my dick I'll call you gay.


Sorry chief, I have standards.

You do you though.

Rationing, price and wage freezes, command industry. But keep telling yourself it was organic.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:00 pm to
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The left today wants to help a different race because they think their race has been treating that other race unfairly


Your IQ has to be below room temperature if you actually believe this.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296222 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:01 pm to
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Lol no, but keep telling yourself ghost stories.l about CRT.


CRT is an academic effort that really stupid people are trying to implement into some real world framework.

It seems your people don't understand the critical part of CRT.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:01 pm to
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The left today wants to help a different race because they think their race has been treating that other race unfairly.

Pretty sure Hitler's exact argument was that he was just making things fair for the Germans because the Jews were abusing everyone else.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135544 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:02 pm to
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Anarcho-socialists
Anarcho-socialism is as real as utopia. i.e., It has never existed and will never exist.

Again, Left = bigger government with autocracy at its extreme. Right equals progressively smaller government with more local control eventually terminating in anarchy. (Somalia falls near that endpoint)
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296222 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:02 pm to
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but it has certainly led to violence


Because the rank and file Democrat thinks the elements of this academic pursuit have real world applications and they don't.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78237 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:03 pm to
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It seems your people don't understand the critical part of CRT.


It’s the part that requires critical thinking
The part your people seem to miss out on.
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