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re: This is hanging in a second grade classroom

Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:35 pm to
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Do you feel all education in schools should be handled the same way?

My initial reaction is, “no.”
But I may not be interpreting your question correctly.
Would you mind re-asking it differently?
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 2:36 pm
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:36 pm to
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Is that common core math? That is some stupid arse shite.


I don't know if common core math is actually something that you can teach another person but the methodology is smart. That's how people that are good at math do it in their head.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:36 pm to
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You should definitely home school your child then, so you can control when things are taught.


So you feel as though a parent should have zero say in what is being taught their child in school? This is your argument? Literally no topic is off limits?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:37 pm to
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You are going to laugh when you realize that most private schools use the same curriculum and books as public schools do.


You're under the assumption I don't understand how private schools operate. Your assumption is wrong.

I have choice in which private school my child attends, and therefore the curriculum. I have no choice in the public school system.



Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:37 pm to
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You think just because a SJW teacher teaches something in a classroom that it's appropriate for them to do so?


Any teacher that decides to teach this in second grade is automatically a SJW?

If this is not on the approved curriculum for the school, this teacher is going to be in a lot of trouble.

I know the far-right loves to call out SJW in schools... but the only thing teachers and school admins care about is passing the damn test.

quote:

What is being argued are social issues that are being taught to children for the sake of indoctrination to further push one side of those issues.


So this is purely "indoctrination"? Come on. This is the world we live in. I'm not a fan of them being taught this... much less people making these life choices... but I don't want my kids to grow up to be as ignorant as most posters on this message board.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:39 pm to
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but the only thing teachers and school admins care about is passing the damn test.


There's a test on SJW terminology that kids have to pass?

That's a new one.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:40 pm to
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My initial reaction is, “no.”
But I may not be interpreting your question correctly.
Would you mind re-asking it differently?


You stated that because children develop differnetly, that the parent should be the one deciding when it should be taught.

My question is... does that "give the parent the decision because each child is different" apply to other subjects as well?

All third graders are instructed the same math skills... but some kids develop in math faster than others.

All second graders are instructed in the same reading skills... but some kids develop much faster than others.

If you are going to be consistent with this ideas that parents should decide because kids develop differently.... then you should feel this should apply to all types of learning/subjects that occur in school.

Otherwise... you are just a hack.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:40 pm to
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Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:41 pm to
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There's a test on SJW terminology that kids have to pass?


LOL. Gay is not SJW terminology.
Posted by selfgen
youngsville
Member since Aug 2006
1040 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:42 pm to
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What's inappropriate about it? It's not describing sexual acts or anything.


You don’t have children obviously. You’re clueless. The need for kids to learn that garbage is infinitesimal. There’s millions of other things they could be learning.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22774 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:42 pm to
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Gay is not SJW terminology.



Cisgendered is.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44002 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:42 pm to
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If you are going to be consistent with this ideas that parents should decide because kids develop differently.... then you should feel this should apply to all types of learning/subjects that occur in school.

I do.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83525 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:42 pm to
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Any teacher that decides to teach this in second grade is automatically a SJW?


I'd say it would be a pretty easy bet that the teacher of this classroom would fit the characterization of a SJW. I don't think that would be a reach.

quote:

'm not a fan of them being taught this... much less people making these life choices... but I don't want my kids to grow up to be as ignorant as most posters on this message board.


So you are not a fan of them being taught this, but you have been arguing with everyone that says that are not a fan of this?

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:43 pm to
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LOL. Gay is not SJW terminology.


You said that teachers and administration only care about passing a test.

So since that teacher has that stuff up there, especially for 2nd grade students, then it must mean they will be tested on it correct?

So, I'm just wondering when the State of New York added gender preference terms to the 2nd grade exit exam.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:44 pm to
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So you feel as though a parent should have zero say in what is being taught their child in school? This is your argument? Literally no topic is off limits?


That is exactly how I feel.

When my plumbing breaks, I hire a plumber. I do not question their methods.

When my electricity breaks, I hire an electrician. I do not question their methods.

When I want to eat dinner out, I go to a restaurant, and indirectly, I hire a chef. I do not question their methods.

If I don't like how they do things, I find another provider, or I do it myself.

If you are going to send your child to school... then no, you don't get to decide how they are taught at that school, or what they are taught. If you don't like the outcome, find another school. If you don't like any of the outcomes, home school them.

As long as home school is an option... I will always feel this way.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64600 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:44 pm to
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This is the world we live in


This is what is part of it. The plan. I want to change the world and they do. Only it changes societal norms to match freakish behaviors and then claims them as normal in nature and to be accepted as such.

Now that it is part of the new created society it is to be taught as normal in society for the new generations.

Indoctrination complete.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:46 pm to
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EKG


quote:

I do.


Then do you homeschool your kids?

If you do... then while I may disagree with your stance on the issue at hand... I have a lot of respect for you as a person and your consistency.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64600 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:46 pm to
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you don't get to decide how they are taught at that school,


The leftist have decided for the last 50 years what we should remove from schools that were part of the curriculum. Come on now.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:46 pm to
Indoctrination. Another reason my children won't go to public school and I am looking to eventually go off grid.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83525 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:46 pm to
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If you are going to send your child to school... then no, you don't get to decide how they are taught at that school, or what they are taught. If you don't like the outcome, find another school. If you don't like any of the outcomes, home school them.


What makes you think that anyone here wouldn't change schools, or at least, teachers?


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