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re: This Country needs comprehensive LGBTQ+ reform.

Posted on 8/27/25 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 2:41 pm to
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Start with divorcing the LGB from the rest of the alphabet.

Your average Gay or Lesbian person has no business being grouped with delusional people who claim they are the opposite sex.



While this feels true, it really isn't. Once you start to accept certain curated versions of reality, there is no end to that really. Every single limit you'd place is entirely arbitrary.

Plus, it's probably only the LG's who are legit in this case, but even that is an entirely arbitrary idea that their version of sex is valid, but the rest aren't. There's no legitimate reason for that. The Bisexuals automatically complicate any sort of definition you throw around those three groups ten fold. As soon as you say it's entirely normal for someone to prefer both men and women, and that should be celebrated and supported with governmental protections - all bets are off. There's no structure there for reality to take hold.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26349 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 2:41 pm to
And on top.of that they say that 50%+ commit suicide. I mean, politicians need to stop with the bullshite. If that doesn't scream mental illness I dont know what does
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 2:43 pm to
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Freauxzen


Good point.

But... to be fair, I don't think even the LG need celebration or government preferences... I just simply don't find them as deranged as the trans mafia.

You've given me something real to consider- and I appreciate that.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38453 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 2:54 pm to
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But... to be fair, I don't think even the LG need celebration or government preferences...


Absolutely. No one does. But this entire problem stems from the fact that "the other" in this case "LGBTQ" interpret the world and structure (politics, culture, etc.) as one that "celebrates" and "protects" heterosexuals, men and women and traditional perspectives on gender, and monogamy.

And that the only way to "equality" is to offset that celebration and protection with their own celebration and protection and then to force that on everyone. For them to be equal their preferences have to be seen as "equal" to heterosexual preference, men and women, monogamy (Let's just call this all "traditional culture"). They are ONLY valid in their own eyes if I, as the other, view their disordered preferences as equal and celebrate them as much. Anything less is "injustice."

And I'll admit, that's kind of the point. We toss around "equality," haphazardly. But it's true. In relation to reality itself, a homosexual relationship will never be "equal" to a heterosexual one. Philosophically, it just can't be. We can make it legal equally. We can make it culturally equal, in some sense, but it will never be "equal." It is by it's very nature, a different thing.

There's an argument to be that politically a government should "prefer," the most structured and beneficial relationship, and should reward that, without disallowing, or limiting the other, but that's a whole other argument.

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I just simply don't find them as deranged as the trans mafia.


They aren't, it's true.

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You've given me something real to consider- and I appreciate that.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14435 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 3:40 pm to
The LBG faction can either stand up or watch all they’ve rightfully fought for IMO go up In flames
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 3:42 pm to
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divorcing the LGB


Nah, the sexual deviants have allowed the wagons to be hitched to theirs for this long, they need to ride it on in with the other sexual deviants...
Posted by JperiodCperiod
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 4:00 pm to
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Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26092 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 4:08 pm to
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Isn’t the B part also in confusion? I’d group them with the TQ+ (whatever the f + means)


No, the B, which is mostly composed of woman, just likes swinging both ways. Go figure.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 4:09 pm to
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Isn’t the B part also in confusion? I’d group them with the TQ+ (whatever the f + means)


I mean, they’re into both sexes so not really. Don’t see that as any worse than being gay.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170785 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 4:11 pm to
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Ban it all. Complete mental disorders

How do you "ban" it exactly?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170785 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 4:13 pm to
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And on top.of that they say that 50%+ commit suicide.

I knew it was much higher than the general population but it is it really that high?
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27438 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 4:21 pm to
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Start with divorcing the LGB from the rest of the alphabet. Your average Gay or Lesbian person has no business being grouped with delusional people who claim they are the opposite sex. I'm straight but damn I'd be offended as hell if I were gay and tossed in the same bucket as Audrey Hale or this newest shooter.


This x100.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
194971 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 4:25 pm to
Pro-life advocacy should pivot to supporting de-transitioning
Posted by lungbuster06
Member since Dec 2014
729 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 4:43 pm to
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I don't think even the LG need celebration or government preferences... I just simply don't find them as deranged as the trans mafia.


I agree that I don’t find status quo homosexuals as deranged as trannies, but something is still off. Most gay men I know are whinier bitches than middle school girls. Label me whatever, but this is me legitimately asking because I’m seeking the answer, but if it’s purely a sexual preference, why does it have to embody the persons entire identity? Why does the gay and lesbian lifestyle require men to become feminine and women to adopt more masculine attributes? This is why I can’t completely say that all gay/lesbians aren’t fighting some levels of mental instability themselves.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
15041 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 4:48 pm to
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but if it’s purely a sexual preference, why does it have to embody the persons entire identity?


For some, it does... for others, it doesn't. I can only speak personally of some lesbians I knew at one time (not like that), I didn't know they WERE lesbians until much later after having worked with them. They didn't "wear" it.

I have known zero gay guys fitting that description in real life... however, the NYT had a whole arse article about the "A-gays" in Trump's administration... so I reckon they exist too.
Posted by joe68
Hamilton ,MT
Member since Sep 2003
2913 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 4:57 pm to
I
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Start with divorcing the LGB from the rest of the alphabet
I agree
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16947 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 5:00 pm to
They are all a bunch of reprobates
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3972 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 5:16 pm to
It all needs to be back in the closet. ALL of it. Straight stuff . Everyone needs to just STFU about the private part of their life.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17707 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 5:18 pm to
It starts with reversing gay marriage. This shart is not remotely normal.
Posted by BeepBopBoop
Northshore
Member since Dec 2023
1179 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 5:22 pm to
There’s trend with these leftist fanatics and the manifesto spells it out perfectly.

They’re all life losers that have been lied to by their family, friends, doctors, tik tok’ers et al.

Everyone around them has been affirming every stupid whim these dumbasses have. Then they get to be 25, own nothing, no skills, no job, living at home, eating trash, playing xbox, fat…and now theyre angry.

25 they can’t play dress up anymore, can’t pretend to be a cat, they start realizing what they are…losers.
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