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re: Things I disagree with Trump over----and every conservative should
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:36 pm to goatmilker
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:36 pm to goatmilker
quote:Would you be 100% in favor of our reps setting the legal # to zero?
In other words our reps can set legal #'s of legal immigrants for every year. Thats what I am 100% for.
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Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:37 pm to I B Freeman
For one, you're ignoring the petrodollar situation.
For us to effectively force nations to buy/sell oil in US Dollars we must have a military presence, among other things like proxy armies ect to maintain this policy.
And second, you're not countering the point that our global military presence and power is a huge reason we're able to remain the leading global currency.
For us to effectively force nations to buy/sell oil in US Dollars we must have a military presence, among other things like proxy armies ect to maintain this policy.
And second, you're not countering the point that our global military presence and power is a huge reason we're able to remain the leading global currency.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:38 pm to I B Freeman
Immigration needs to be limited to those that would be an asset. We do not need unlimited immigration.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:47 pm to FearlessFreep
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Would you be 100% in favor of our reps setting the legal # to zero?
0-100 yes.
Events change year to year. If my rep votes against me I vote against him.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:58 pm to I B Freeman
Dear Diary,
Today, on Day Three Of the Trump Presidency,before his Cabinet is in place, and while the Political/Media/Cultural Establishment is in full meltdown mode, I went on the message board and joined in wagging my finger at President Trump. Because there was not enough finger-wagging yet. I was happy to join hands with his Progressive enemies in the streets and the media, because that's what principled people do on day three of a new Presidency, even after eight years of Progressive Declinism. Not his hysterical critics on every front, but him. It was a good day.
Today, on Day Three Of the Trump Presidency,before his Cabinet is in place, and while the Political/Media/Cultural Establishment is in full meltdown mode, I went on the message board and joined in wagging my finger at President Trump. Because there was not enough finger-wagging yet. I was happy to join hands with his Progressive enemies in the streets and the media, because that's what principled people do on day three of a new Presidency, even after eight years of Progressive Declinism. Not his hysterical critics on every front, but him. It was a good day.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 3:12 pm to I B Freeman
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he said last week the government should be more active in negotiating drug prices for medicare and medicaid. I disagree
Well, unless youre going to totally get rid of one of the few programs that people actually invest in for themselves (which youre not), then govt purchasing power should be an absolute sledgehammer
So, youre wrong
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But if his goal is to simply prop up inefficient US companies I am not for it.
How exactly are these US companies supposed to get efficient, if they cant compete for labor?
Again, wrong asumption
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I am for unlimited legal immigration
Then youre an idiot. Look around. We cant take care of folks that have been here for generations. And you want to bring in people that have no language, no resources, and no network to rely on. And if you just want cheap labor to landscape and roof
Then youre a lazy shite
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I am tired of the military complex
Al Qarda, ISIS, the Taliban say 'Hello'. They have been fighting this war for 800 years. Theyre going nowhere.
And they say, yet again, youre wrong
Posted on 1/22/17 at 3:31 pm to FearlessFreep
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What, exactly, are you 'conserving' in a nation when you bring in tens of millions of people with no affinity for the history, customs and traditions of those who founded said nation?
We have created the the greatest standard of living in world history for two hundred years by allowing "tens of millions of people with no affinity for the customs and traditions" into the country to build our economy.
We should always want industrious people to contribute to our society and our economy.
Since we have elected to construct a significant welfare state we now have to restrict access to the borders to those that have jobs and agree to care for themselves--IMHO.
All of those willing to do that should be welcomed.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 3:41 pm to RobbBobb
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Well, unless youre going to totally get rid of one of the few programs that people actually invest in for themselves (which youre not), then govt purchasing power should be an absolute sledgehammer
So, youre wrong
Well you sir are mistaken.
We already buy drugs with these two programs AND because of that drug prices are higher for all of us. You see if you are a medicare or medicaid provider you can sell your services to other people cheaper than you sell them to the government. What happens is drug companies lobby for higher payments and the drug prices go up to all of us.
I have stated on several occasions here we should end the direct purchasing of drugs by the government and should instead make medicare a subscription based service that allow people to shop for their subscriptions to care and let them keep any saving they get. That would be the end of healthcare pricing as we know and we all we would be MUCH better off.
Until we actually lower what providers get we will never lower healthcare cost.
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But if his goal is to simply prop up inefficient US companies I am not for it.
How exactly are these US companies supposed to get efficient, if they cant compete for labor?
Labor as a cost of goods is vastly overstated in most cases. Think about this--is there enough labor in your computer to offset the transportation cost to send it half way around the world? I doubt it. We should say to China--quit subsidizing your state owned companies and we will end tariffs. Of course we must be willing to quit subsidizing several of our industries too. That tit for tat on tariffs--like steel and ag products--is not good for anybody.
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We cant take care of folks that have been here for generations.
You sir are the idiot if you oppose letting people in to work if they agree to take care of themselves and pay taxes.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 3:44 pm to Sentrius
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There's a reason why brown people don't like small government and fiscal conservatism.
One thing I can't stand about other Indians is this even though you may not be referring to them. If you look outside my family, most other dot Indians are socialist. I am so happy that family is conservative and libertarian and it makes me sick that so many other Indians are not.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 3:58 pm to I B Freeman
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We have created the the greatest standard of living in world history for two hundred years by allowing "tens of millions of people with no affinity for the customs and traditions" into the country to build our economy
Please inform yourself
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There was relatively little immigration from 1770 to 1830. Nearly all population growth up to 1830 was by internal increase; around 98.5% of the population was native-born. By 1850, this shifted to about 90% native-born
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% Native Born
1830 - 99.2%
1850 - 90.3%
1880 - 86.7%
1900 - 86.4%
1930 - 88.4%
1960 - 94.2%
1970 - 95.3%
1980 - 94%
1990 - 92.1%
2000 - 88.9%
90% of the work done in America, was by people born here. Except, of course for the slaves. Which, no one views as 'immigrants'.
If you look at the numbers, when America is firing on all cylinders, that's when immigration increases. Which means the native born Americans were the ones doing the work to get there. The immigrants took advantage of their efforts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 4:05 pm to I B Freeman
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if they agree to take care of themselves and pay taxes
We cant even get people born here to agree to that
"Oh my God, Amir. You cant sign that paper. We cant agree to buy healthcare and pay taxes. We don't even know what that shite is. Just put down the form, and lets go back home"
Posted on 1/22/17 at 4:16 pm to I B Freeman
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Here are some things I disagree with him based on what I have read.
Film tax incentives?
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1) government purchasing of prescription drugs---he said last week the government should be more active in negotiating drug prices for medicare and medicaid. I disagree. It is the government purchasing of these drugs that have driven the prices up over the years. The changes need to be FAR more extreme for the good of us all. The government should get out of the direct purchasing of healthcare and should instead simply subsidize the purchase of healthcare by individuals. Voucher if you will. It works for the GI bill. It works albeit too much for food stamps. It will work for healthcare. (Imagine what food would cost if the government bought half of it for us.)
Can't argue here.
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2) Trade--I hope I am wrong here. I remember Ron Paul missives on NAFTA and he is exactly right--NAFTA is not free trade. Trump has talked a lot about tariffs and NAFTA. If his goal is lower tariffs and the end of NAFTA I am all for it. But if his goal is to simply prop up inefficient US companies I am not for it. We should reduce regulation and taxes so that our companies are more competitive and to the end that Trump is for that so am I for Trump.
Here either.
The Trumpkin like of "force companies to stay here" is bullshite.
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3) Immigration--I am ok with building the wall and enforcing current law BUT I am not for limiting immigration. I am for unlimited legal immigration. I am for outlawing welfare for non citizens. We should know who is here and we should require them to be properly insured and paying taxes. If legal immigration say you have to have a job and you have to care for yourself by having health insurance and buying your own food and housing then I am all for unlimited immigration
Spot on, you racist xenophobic summummabitch.
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4) military spending--I am tired of the military complex. Let's defend ourselves and build a budget that does just that. Hopefully he will get us out of this endless war that Bush, Obama and Hillary supported.
Every federal department should be CUT by at least 10%.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 4:44 pm to I B Freeman
Good job, IB. I agree.
The "conservatives" who downvote are probably the same "conservatives" who still think Bobby Jindal was an awesome, fiscally responsible Governor and also think we should have unlimited film subsidies in Louisiana.
A President Trump is definitely better than a President Obama or a President Hillary Clinton, but let's not act that this guy is going to be a great revival of true free market conservatism and budgeting.
The "conservatives" who downvote are probably the same "conservatives" who still think Bobby Jindal was an awesome, fiscally responsible Governor and also think we should have unlimited film subsidies in Louisiana.
A President Trump is definitely better than a President Obama or a President Hillary Clinton, but let's not act that this guy is going to be a great revival of true free market conservatism and budgeting.
This post was edited on 1/22/17 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 1/22/17 at 4:48 pm to RobbBobb
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If you look at the numbers, when America is firing on all cylinders, that's when immigration increases. Which means the native born Americans were the ones doing the work to get there. The immigrants took advantage of their efforts
So when America was "firing on all cylinders" how many were immigrants? The actual number.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 4:50 pm to I B Freeman
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But if his goal is to simply prop up inefficient US companies I am not for it.
That is globalism so frick you.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 4:58 pm to RobbBobb
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We cant even get people born here to agree to that
I wish we could deport some of those. I will settle for limiting welfare a lot.
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"Oh my God, Amir. You cant sign that paper. We cant agree to buy healthcare and pay taxes. We don't even know what that shite is. Just put down the form, and lets go back home"
Uhhh countries all of the world enforce restriction to work visas that require people to prove employment and the like. We can too.
You can't even get a tourist visa to China without telling them the flight you will be leaving the country on.
You people arguing with me about this are not thinking at all. First off requiring proof of employment, proof of health insurance and proof of housing will eliminate any casual immigration to the USA. (It should also be the standard we apply to give illegals here today a way to get a green card.)
It is insanity to think that a economy of X million people working and paying taxes is not stronger if there are X+1 people working and paying taxes.
My proposal does not tax the economy---it strengthens the economy.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 5:00 pm to I B Freeman
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Trade--I hope I am wrong here. I remember Ron Paul missives on NAFTA and he is exactly right--NAFTA is not free trade. Trump has talked a lot about tariffs and NAFTA. If his goal is lower tariffs and the end of NAFTA I am all for it. But if his goal is to simply prop up inefficient US companies I am not for it. We should reduce regulation and taxes so that our companies are more competitive and to the end that Trump is for that so am I for Trump
I'm all for free trade too but would you say that the Chinese government requiring US companies to turn over patented designs in order to open factories or do business in China is free trade? If we just say oh yeah come sell whatever you want in the US but still do nothing about the Chinese stealing intellectual property we are hurting American companies. Free trade only works when both sides play by the same rules.
Same reason why open borders is a nice idea on paper but will never work in practice between idealogically different people and governments.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 5:03 pm to doubleb
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mmigration needs to be limited to those that would be an asset. We do not need unlimited immigration
This.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 5:07 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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For us to effectively force nations to buy/sell oil in US Dollars we must have a military presence, among other things like proxy armies ect to maintain this policy.
We don't force anyone to sell oil in US dollars. US dollars is the best currency for those oil exporters to use. There is nothing to prevent and I am sure it happens every day an oil exporter from selling oil in Euros or Rubles or any other currency. Maduro is swapping it for food with Cuba.
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And second, you're not countering the point that our global military presence and power is a huge reason we're able to remain the leading global currency.
What does that mean?? The military may be part of the reason we have a stable government and that instills a certain confidence in our currency. The Swiss have a very well respected currency too and they don't even have a navy!!
We need to get our arse out of the Middle East and need to do it tomorrow. We need to, like Trump says, examine our commitments to NATO and get out of as many of those as we can. Same for SEATO.
How many Americans do you want to die for this so called petrodollar that to you seems so important to maintain?
Posted on 1/22/17 at 5:16 pm to wmr
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Cato Institute
Libertarian right?
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