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re: Things I disagree with Trump over----and every conservative should

Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:17 pm to
Could not disagree more.

quote:

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." Thomas Jefferson


Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:18 pm to
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You're right...anyone would have been better than Trump. maybe we can still get Hillary?


Hillary Clinton was the most corrupt individual to have ever received the nomination of a major political party.

Trump was the only person running that could have beat her.

I voted for him.
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:19 pm to
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Our economic policies require us to be in military control of the middle east.



Posted by King Teal
The Last Banana Republic
Member since Sep 2016
988 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:19 pm to
Pretty hilarious the media knew all they had to do was indirectly threaten his manhood (by telling him his crowds were small ) for him to absolutely lose it.

Trump, C'MON, MAN
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:20 pm to
Explain, without an emoji, how that is inaccurate.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:22 pm to
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You're not understanding the petrodollar, among other things.


I understand completely.

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It also is a huge part of us being the leading global reserve currency.


Not true. Name a currency since WWII that has been as safe as the US dollar. Oh it changes in value but it doesn't collapse. Not even the pound has been as safe as the dollar. (One may say the Swiss Franc--LSURussian would be the person best qualified to opine on this.)
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:23 pm to
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1) government purchasing of prescription drugs---he said last week the government should be more active in negotiating drug prices for medicare and medicaid. I disagree. It is the government purchasing of these drugs that have driven the prices up over the years. The changes need to be FAR more extreme for the good of us all. The government should get out of the direct purchasing of healthcare and should instead simply subsidize the purchase of healthcare by individuals. Voucher if you will. It works for the GI bill. It works albeit too much for food stamps. It will work for healthcare. (Imagine what food would cost if the government bought half of it for us.)



I agree.

When government picks winners and losers, the loser is the american consumer.

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2) Trade--I hope I am wrong here. I remember Ron Paul missives on NAFTA and he is exactly right--NAFTA is not free trade. Trump has talked a lot about tariffs and NAFTA. If his goal is lower tariffs and the end of NAFTA I am all for it. But if his goal is to simply prop up inefficient US companies I am not for it. We should reduce regulation and taxes so that our companies are more competitive and to the end that Trump is for that so am I for Trump.


I agree. I'm for free trade but we have make sure those trade deals are slanted in our favor and we get the most value out of them.

I don't want trade wars though.

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3) Immigration--I am ok with building the wall and enforcing current law BUT I am not for limiting immigration. I am for unlimited legal immigration. I am for outlawing welfare for non citizens. We should know who is here and we should require them to be properly insured and paying taxes. If legal immigration say you have to have a job and you have to care for yourself by having health insurance and buying your own food and housing then I am all for unlimited immigration.


I disagree a bit actually.

We're facing a demographics crisis unlike anything we've ever seen in American history and we have to get it under control.

There's a reason why brown people don't like small government and fiscal conservatism. We have to stop them from immigrating here in droves.

I'm in favor of lots and lots of white europeans and asians immigrating here in droves though.

Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19980 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:23 pm to
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Point to any single post of mine you do not think is for smaller government, less government power and individual freedom.

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I am for unlimited legal immigration.
That is about as anti-conservative a statement as is humanly possible to make.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:24 pm to
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You aren't a conservative IB

Never have been


IB opened up my eyes to what a phony Jindal was and how he only gave lip service to fiscal conservatism.

You ain't got shite.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:24 pm to
That response was disturbingly pathetic.

Whatever keeps your dick hard, I guess.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:25 pm to
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And any human should be against building a wall across an entire countries border.



That's funny considering how nearly ever country on Earth has one, is building one right now, or in the planning stages.

We're even paying other countries to build their walls.
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS
Member since Mar 2004
73182 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:26 pm to
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Explain, without an emoji, how that is inaccurate.


I'm more curious how it's accurate
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:27 pm to
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That is about as anti-conservative a statement as is humanly possible to make.


Did you read my caveats? Caveats I say would not be necessary if we did not have welfare.

Why would anyone be against someone coming here who has a job, who is paying taxes, who is insured and who will not be on welfare?

What is conservative about opposing working people?
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:28 pm to
The walls around the world are an indication of a sickness.

Any Mexico border wall discussion should include trade policies and drug laws.

Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:30 pm to
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I'm more curious how it's accurate



I said something, the burden is on you to counter it.

We essentially force nations to buy/sell oil in US Dollars.

Our military foothold is an important part of making that possible.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19980 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:31 pm to
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What is conservative about opposing working people?

What is conservative about deliberate plan to fundamentally change the character of a nation?

What, exactly, are you 'conserving' in a nation when you bring in tens of millions of people with no affinity for the history, customs and traditions of those who founded said nation?
This post was edited on 1/22/17 at 2:31 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76436 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:31 pm to
I'm afraid your seeing wrongly.

I am for unlimited legal immigration.
That is about as anti-conservative a statement as is humanly possible to make.

How is legal being unlimited wrong?

In other words our reps can set legal #'s of legal immigrants for every year. Thats what I am 100% for.

Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:33 pm to
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That response was disturbingly pathetic.


In what way??

In what currency since WWII would you think oil exporters would have preferred?

Frankly we would probably be better off if 50 years ago if some international currency--gold perhaps--had been declared the legal tender of international trade. That would have made Congress tighten it's belt because the demand for our debt would be so much smaller.
This post was edited on 1/22/17 at 2:35 pm
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16761 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:35 pm to
No film tax credits = no care
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 2:36 pm to
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The walls around the world are an indication of a sickness.





More like a desire to protect their own demographics from undesirables and people who do not fit their culture.

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Any Mexico border wall discussion should include trade policies and drug laws.



Agreed.

The War on Drugs is a national security issue and a drive of out of control immigration.

The better that Mexico does with their economy, the less people that will come here.
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