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re: They keep mysteriously finding ballots in Maricopa County

Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:13 pm to
Posted by SaintInBham
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2015
1116 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:13 pm to
These are early vote ballots that weren’t mailed or put in a drop box. They were hand carried on Election Day. After the 2000 Mule video people didn’t trust the system. Lake told voters not to mail them im but bring them in person. These will likely be substantially all R voters
Posted by crossfire
Alabama
Member since Oct 2010
2704 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:14 pm to
Who the frick drops ballots the day of? The purpose of early voting is to do it before the election, like you’re out of town or you don’t want to stand in line. This shite has to stop!
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55386 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:15 pm to
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Who the frick drops ballots the day of?



Roughly about 400K this time! These are GOP votes


Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12623 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:16 pm to
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That's just how counting works.

quote:

how about a cash register


Really? When I did cashier type work mine came out right.

Because I can count.

They never overestimate and aren't counting shite.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4172 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:21 pm to
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Really? When I did cashier-type work mine came out right.

Because I can count.

They never overestimate and aren't counting shite.


Yea--sure. 100% perfect every time.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62610 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:22 pm to
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But is it unbelievable that the estimate was off by 5%?
Yes. It is. Most places already have their votes counted already. Maricopa Co. can't even figure out how many votes they have in hand, two plus days after they were dropped off.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:36 pm to
The first 275k probably were
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16591 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:37 pm to
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Who the frick drops ballots the day of? The purpose of early voting is to do it before the election, like you’re out of town or you don’t want to stand in line. This shite has to stop!



A lot of people do this, they are mostly Republicans by th=e way.

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21855 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:42 pm to
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they are mostly Republicans by th=e way.

That seems to be the case until the last tranche when it's known how many votes a Dem has to make up.

Didn't that just happen in NV?
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:58 pm to
I understand the reasoning that Rep voters held their early ballots until Election Day, which is a stupid rule that allows these “late earlies” in the first place but that’s what AZ’s rule is.

What I don’t understand is how the actual number of total ballots, not who they voted for but the *number* of ballots, still keeps changing more than 48 hours after the voting ended. There has to be a rule put in place to lock in the count of Election Day ballots by some predetermined time and additional ballots cannot be added after that time. The number could go down as the ballots are processed and tallied, as some may get disqualified, but it couldn’t go up because someone “found” more ballots. So if a precinct verifies their count at 20,000 ballots within 24 hours of the polls closing, they may end up with 19,537 tallied votes and 463 disqualified ballots, but they don’t get to report 24,102 votes 5 days later.

Same could be done with mail in votes if they moved up the postmark deadline. If they are determined to allow mail in voting, make it for early voting only and set the postmark deadline a week prior to Election Day. Precincts have to verify their mail ballot count AND their Election Day ballot count within 24 hours of polls closing. They can process, tally and cure the ballots with bipartisan poll watchers observing after that, but the counts are locked in.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7939 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:04 am to
Yet, the person in charge of elections there is on her way to being governor.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78173 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:10 am to
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When unusual things happen that aren’t explainable in elections, frickery is involved.
You don't know that it is unexplanable. What you do know is what you're being told second, third and fourth hand by a group of people who don't know much either. This is the problem with mail-in votes. Nobody knows how many were returned until the get there. In this case it was an estimate that 275k were dropped off. An estimate. Actually being 290k isn't that great a difference, about 5%.

Regardless, this snails pace and mail-in and early voting needs to be curtailed severely. No mail-in and at most, 9 days of early voting.
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:15 am to
The fox is in… again. Right in front of our eyes and the media doesn’t care.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16591 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:16 am to
I support evoting.

LINK
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7939 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:16 am to
No one has been able to answer one simple question about mail in votes since all this started a couple of years ago. If someone inserts 20k ballots into the pile, how can you tell that after the fact?
Posted by Jayrod79
Member since Apr 2019
627 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:18 am to
When a state was decided by 11000 votes ( which it wasnt) and there is a magical 15000 more votes that just appear yeah its a pretty big problem. That fact they take this long to count such a tiny amount of votes and the last two cycles they are finding votes which always heavily favor democrats is a problem. I think anyone using common sense can see what's going on. The dems own it all and have no worry of repercussions.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26944 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:22 am to
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I support evoting.


Then you probably support ebuying a firearm. Right?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78173 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:22 am to
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I support evoting
That's gonna be a "No." from me, dawg.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78173 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:25 am to
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 there is a magical 15000 more votes that just appear
They'renot magical and did not suddenly appear. They were in a group that was brought in the day of the election and estimated to be 275 but turned out to be about 5% more. Plus, posters are saying this was a tactic supported by Lake, hence the belief that it will benefit her.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16591 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:32 am to
Well fellahs you can't have it both ways.

No to paper voting and hand counting because it takes too long.

No to evoting - even though it has been used safely and securely for years.

No to machine voting - even though it too has been what we have used for decades.

What, we gonna have an Iowa Caucus for our general election?

Before you jump to conclusions about evoting security -

LINK
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